Birth look up please

[Deezy]

Hi all,

I'm also interested in any info about the above family.

Julie is my auntie I believe ( Hi Auntie Julie!  ) and Ethel was my grandmother. I believe that she may have had a brother William too.

I have just got back from a trip to England where I met one of Lesley Quigley's sons and his granddaughter.

[Deezy]

Apparently Leslie left a wife back in Australia when he enlisted as Frank King-maybe that has something to do with his alias? I don't know if there were children from this first marriage.

He was supposedly still married to his Australian wife when he married his first English wife-therefore committing bigamy (according to this wife, he was also engaged to a girl in South Africa at the time of marrying). There were 2 sons from that marriage (who ended up seeing very little of him)-which didn't last. He then married again and had more children- one of whom travelled to Australia with him when he made that trip.

An interesting side note is that his elder son from his second wife and a daughter from his final marriage were both named after their father. 

[Munch]

Well! Who knew that Les (Aka Frank King) was such a dark horse?     
I was interested in the idea that he already had a wife in Australia before he enlisted with the alias of  Frank King. 
Have you found the document (s) to prove that ?  Or is this hear-say? 

[cando]

Frank KING named his brother George as NOK when he enlisted.  Usually the enlistee's wife is NOK ie if he is married.  Frank also stated he was single on 3 Nov 1939.
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/NAAMedia/ShowImage.aspx?B=6219434&S=1&T=P

If he married in Australia then it was possibly after he was struck off as an illegal absentee in 24 Jun 1940 however he married in 1944 in England.

A couple of possibilities - and these are the only Frank KING marriages in Victoria to 1942, limit of indexes.  The marriage certificates names the parents of the bride and groom and including the mothers' maiden names however Frank may not have been truthful considering he had changed his name.

KING Frank
DRURY Avis Grace
1940  Reg# 5190

KING Frank
McQUALTER Jean Margaret
1940  Reg#7351

Cando

[Munch]

Just had a quick look at the 2 marriage certs for Leslie Herbert Quigley....
The 1st to Mildred Rowlands in 1944...Les states that his Father is called Herbert Quigley ( a deceased steeplejack)
In the 2nd marriage  to Collette Walton, Les states that his father is called William Quigley (a deceased soldier)
I can't see that he would have used his alias of Frank King to marry in Australia before joining up in 1939.  Also i can't see that he used his given name of Leslie Herbert Quigley to marry pre 1939 in Australia.
Puzzled.com!

[cando]

The 1st to Mildred Rowlands in 1944...Les states that his Father is called Herbert Quigley ( a deceased steeplejack)
In the 2nd marriage  to Collette Walton, Les states that his father is called William Quigley (a deceased soldier)

Herbert...William QUIGLEY...neither are correct.

i can't see that he used his given name of Leslie Herbert Quigley to marry pre 1939 in Australia.

Not all States have marriages to 1939 online so where did you search?  There is no central bdm registry in Australia.  You have to search the States and Territories individually.

There are no marriages for Frank KING in Victoria until 1940....I have my own resource.

Perhaps Deezy could give some further information eg names.

Cando

[Munch]

Cando.....I have been back over his attestation papers to see if i have missed something there.
i have searched for a marriage pre 1939 enlistment in the name of Frank King and Leslie Herbert Quigley (and all possible variations of names!) via Ancestry.com
Interestingly, i have noticed that since finding out about the alias name being used, the trees containing him as Leslie Herbert Quigley have gone from public to private!!!  The plot thickens! lol 
I welcome any help, no matter where it brings me.

[Deezy]

Hi all- the information about his being married in Australia came from his son. I haven't searched anything myself as I have only been home from the UK a week and was straight back to work....

Edited to add that Elsie May had a son with George Quigley, who was named George ( so he is a legitimate Quigley and Lesley's elder brother)- I find it interesting that the NOK on the attestation papers is George "King"; possibly George Quigley signing but using "King" as well?

[majm]

.....
i have searched for a marriage pre 1939 enlistment in the name of Frank King and Leslie Herbert Quigley (and all possible variations of names!) via Ancestry.com .

Why are you searching for a marriage using Ancestry.com 

Their online database is basically their attempt at an index of the already available, free to search  indexes, used by many long before Ancestry came along. 


Just to confirm Ancestry says :

"..... Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Compiled from publicly available sources.

..... Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Compiled from publicly available sources.

...... Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
Original data: Compiled from publicly available sources."

And of course, those publicly available sources that are freely available ONLINE  have been linked at the Resources Boards for each of Australia's States and Territories at RootsChat :

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/australia-resources-offers/


Cheers,  JM