Bangor Abbey graveyard - McCulloch

[warbler]

I've found reference on the Bangor Abbey website to a very badly flaked sandstone headstone for"  ....... McCulloch, born at Dalmellington, Ayrshire 3rd Feb 1817, died at Bangor 2nd Jan 1883", but it describes the inscription as now almost completely lost.
Does anyone know of any other, perhaps older, sources which might have fuller details of what the inscription originally read, or who was buried in the grave to which it refers?
Any help will be much appreciated.

[Elmca]

Hi, found on Scotlands People:  William McCulloch b. 03/02/1817 Dalmellington parents James McCulloch and Rosina Train who were married in Ayr 29/11/1811  you could try GRONI (General Register Office Northern Ireland) for more info.

[aghadowey]

Hi, found on Scotlands People:  William McCulloch b. 03/02/1817 Dalmellington parents James McCulloch and Rosina Train who were married in Ayr 29/11/1811  you could try GRONI (General Register Office Northern Ireland) for more info.

GRONI will have the death certificate but not the gravestone inscription or a list of other burials in the plot. See here to register, purchase credits for searching & viewing the death certificate, etc.
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

There are a series of books with gravestone inscriptions done a number of years ago so the details might have been recorded when the stone was more legible.

Some lovely photos of Bangor Abbey gravestones here but I can't see the one you mention-
http://www.graves.homecall.co.uk/BangorAbbey/FrameSet.htm

Wonder what the connection to Kllys (if any) might be-
McCULLOCH
[Twin sandstone headstones - badly flaked.  Inscriptions now almost completely lost]
Sacred to the memory of . . . . McCulloch, who was born at Dalmellington, Aryshire, 3rd Feb. 1817 and departed this life at Bangor, 2nd Jan.1883 aged 65 years . . . . . beth . . .
Sacred to the memory of James KELLY, native of Newtownards, who departed this life at Bangor 17th Dec. 1883 aged 78 years. Also his wife Rebecca Kelly who departed this life at Bangor 1st April . . . .  .

[BallyaltikilliganG]

Bangor Abbey Graveyard
Ros Davies Co Down website under her churches section offers a look up of the book see http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/CHURCHES/A-I.htm#Bangor
Graveyard inscriptions UHF Vol 17
contents
Vol. 17: Co. Down, Barony of Ards.
Includes: Balloo House Mausoleum; Ballygilbert Presbyterian Church; Bangor Abbey Graveyard; Bangor Church of Ireland Church; Bangor First Presbyterian Church; Castle Park, Bangor; Clandeboye House; Conlig Presbyterian Church; Groomsport Church of Ireland Church; Groomsport Presbyterian Church
      Paperback: 217 pages
      Publisher: ULSTER HISTORICAL FOUNDATION (1978)
      Language: English
      ISBN-10: 0901905208
      ISBN-13: 978-0901905208
other versions SBN 10: 0901905127 ISBN 13: 9780901905123 the volume is in many libraries but its scarce you might be able to buy it in bookshops specializing in books relating to Ireland
also see her section http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/WORDS/RollCall2.htm its at the bottom of this section is email as a heading which gives her email
she also has two databses for mcculloughs searchable by parish ie Bangor
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Mc/McCullough.htm

[warbler]

Thanks for all your suggestions. I've only just checked Rootschat again, and found them.

I've managed to get hold of a copy of Vol 17 of the Graveyard Inscriptions, but it contains the same information about the badly flaked headstones, and that was in 1978, so I don't think I'm probably going to be able to improve on that.
There's a connection with the Kelly headstone, but I haven't been able to work it all out yet. William McCulloch married Mary Crosbie, daughter of William Crosbie, and on another inscription, for Robert Crosbie, he is referred to as the nephew of Alexander Kelly, and the son of William Crosbie. I need to go back another generation in the Crosbie line, and particularly find out what William Crosbie's wife Agnes' maiden name was.

Thanks for your help.

[BallyaltikilliganG]

http://www.failteromhat.com

In the civil parish of Bangor in 1863, using the spelling of McCullough we have 27 entries and for Kelly 16 entries some are as landlord etc  Listed in Griffiths valuation see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index
however a short cut is take the county index that shows townlands etc see http://www.failteromhat.com

Kelly   Anne   Ballyfree   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   James      Ballymaconnell   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Hugh      Ballysallagh Major   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Edward   Ballysallagh Minor   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Thomas S.   Ballyvarnet   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Thomas S.   Corporation   Bangor   Down
Kelly   Thomas      Cotton   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullough   Samuel   Crawfordsburn,(Ballymullan)   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Robert      Gransha   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   John      Gransha   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Thomas   Gransha   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   James      Gransha   Bangor   Down
Kelly   Eliza         Main Street,Groomsport   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Thomas   Portavoe   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Thomas S.   Rathgill   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullagh   Thomas S.   Rathgill   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullough   Anne      Upper Row,Groomsport   Bangor   Down
Mc Cullough   John      Village of Conlig   Bangor   Down

sadly I found no trace of Crosby in Griffiths in Bangor.   So finally spotting a  match by close location I am hoping the luck of the irish might suggest the they have something to do with Groomsport  in the civil parish of Bangor,  who population did use Bangor Abbey for some burials

The irish times ancestry page , recently changed to https://www.johngrenham.com gives a short but important list of spelling variants found which is far from the two spellings I have only used, my time ran out and a subscription was suggested. if you are not used to spelling variants , its all part of the norm including enumerators background.

The Tithes Applotment books are not complete for Bangor it only includes a townland or two see http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/bangor-parish.php#.V1HW2leoc5R The originals are in the PRONI Belfast,  Parts might exist if there are Bangor papers etc at PRONI

if you haven’t used http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies m, I strongly advise you to exhaust it
I had a peep fpr Crosby and started to find Bangor coming up in the parish column
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/C/CrocCrot.htm#cror

good luck onwards