GREY - Birth / Baptism c.1835, Chatton COMPLETED

[Rosecot]

Hello,

I'm stuck trying to find traces of my 2xGreat Grandmother, John Ann Grey, (yes you read that right, distinctive isn't it?) before she married Thomas Coxon in 1856. She variously appears on census records as Joan or Johann, but John Ann's the spelling on the Marriage and Death Registry and how she wrote it herself on the parish record of her marriage, so I'm assuming it's correct.

The earliest record I have of her is her marriage at Embleton, and all her census records thereafter up to her death in 1891. The 1871-1891 censuses give her birthplace as Fowberry or Chatton, but the 1861 census lists it as Eckford, which I believe is just the other side of the border near Jedburgh. Her father was William Grey, a shepherd according to the marriage record.

So if anyone has any inspirational pointers, I'm hoping to find her birth / baptism around 1835 or her 1841 / 51 census records to point me towards her parents and / or siblings.

Really appreciate anyone's assistance.
Duncan.

[miriamkinga]

Is this the family in 1841 at Chatton? :-

HO107 piece 833 folio 1/16 pg 4

John Ann is listed as Joan, William Grey, 40 is an ag lab, wife Agness 35, siblings Margaret 15, Agnes 13, Elizabeth 12, George 9, Eleanor 7 & William 3.

Best wishes

Maria 

[JenB]

Chatton baptisms up to 1837 are available on FreeReg, but I don't see a John/Jane/Joan Grey among them. http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl

[JenB]

Is this the family in 1841 at Chatton? :-

HO107 piece 833 folio 1/16 pg 4

John Ann is listed as Joan, William Grey, 40 is an ag lab, wife Agness 35, siblings Margaret 15, Agnes 13, Elizabeth 12, George 9, Eleanor 7 & William 3.

In this census all the family, apart from William senior are listed as born 'out of County'.

The same family (minus Joan/Jane) are still at Chatton in 1851, HO 107 / 2422/ 476 / 2

[JenB]

In the 1841 census there is a 13-year-old Agness Grey in the household.

1851 census

HO 107 / 422 / 81 / 30

Coldsmouth, Northumberland

Agness Hindmarsh, head, mar, 23, shepherds wife, Scotland
Adam do, son, 3, Northumberland Chatton
Agnes do, daur, 11m, do Kirknewton
Joan Gray, sister, u, 13, Scotland

[Rosecot]

Maria & Jen,

How d'you do that?!

Very likely spot on - John Ann's own second daughter was named Agnes, which would make a lot of sense if it was her mother's name. So, looks like I'm North of the Border for a baptism and possibly her mother, but dad's a Northumbrian.

Months of fog cleared in under an hour! Thanks so much.

[JenB]

If we have the correct family, then the birth certificate of one of the younger children shown on the 1851 census should give you Agnes's maiden name.

 e.g. Jemima Grey, 1st q 1843, Glendale 25, 281