Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?

[judb]

Sorry - already posted by Cando

Victoria, Australia, Cemetery Records and Headstone Transcriptions, 1844-1997 has this:

Cemetery:   Melbourne, section K, Grave Number 349, Religion   C-E
Sacred to the memory of Jane SINGLETON died 19 Aug 1860 age 48 yrs
Ralph SINGLETON died 10 Mar 1862 age 51 yrs
also their children Mary Ann died 2 Apr 1855 age 2 yrs
George died 13 Jun 1862, age 22 yrs.

Goodness me - there are some on-line trees with some very suspicious information. 

Judith

[westernwombat]

Some months ago, I followed the Singleton/Orbison/Allbiston etc trail to Cheshire and concluded I was on a wild goose chase, misled by some Family Search trees (many that I see are poorly sourced or unsourced). I need to reconsider.

Concerning name changes: Family talk was that my grandmother was born at sea (the same day that Queen Victoria died, so her middle name was Victoria), off Albany in Western Australia - and as far as my family knew, nothing was recorded for that birth.
Apparently, at a later date (1913), documentation was required, and her mother Emily Landells nee Sparrow obtained that from the shipping company.
In part, the Shipping Master wrote:
'The official log book of the S.S. " Marloo" states that a daughter was born to Mrs Emily Lansdells at sea, on 22nd Jany. 1901but the name of the child is not given. I would (hand written insert: advise) you to write to the Registrar for Births, Deaths, and Marriages, Albany where I understand the birth was registered.'
This typewritten letter was from the Shipping Master, Sydney, dated 6th March 1913. I discovered it amongst family papers only recently - I had found nothing in the Western Australian historical BDM. But I haven't pursued further the reference to the Albany Registrar. (The above is at a tangent to this topic, of course.)

[cando]

I think you do need to re-consider the SINGLETON/ALBISTON trail in Cheshire.

I don't know why you rely on submitted information on familysearch.org.  There are lots of resources available to pursue your own research.  Far more satisfying to do your own research and if there are errors you can only blame yourself

Births at sea should be recorded at the next port of call....well that is  my understanding of civil reg in that era.  Send copies of your documentation to WA BDM's for a comment....or two!!

Cando

[cando]

Victoria, Australia, Cemetery Records and Headstone Transcriptions, 1844-1997 has this:

Cemetery:   Melbourne, section K, Grave Number 349, Religion   C-E
Sacred to the memory of Jane SINGLETON died 19 Aug 1860 age 48 yrs
Ralph SINGLETON died 10 Mar 1862 age 51 yrs
also their children Mary Ann died 2 Apr 1855 age 2 yrs
George died 13 Jun 1862, age 22 yrs.

Goodness me - there are some on-line trees with some very suspicious information. 

Judith

Just for the record my transcription, reply#70, was from my own resource.

Cando

[Geordie daughter]

Thanks to all of you who have gone to the time and trouble to dig up the info on Sarah and her parents. I suspect I am going to be kept extremely busy on the Landells/Singleton/Cutting lines over the next couple of weeks!

[judb]

Apologies again - in my comment about wrong information on family trees I was not implying that wrong information here on Rootschat had been copied from a tree.  I know that the superb experienced researchers here on Rootschat use primary sources or make very clear that comments are just comments.

Westernwombat I'm interested to know why you gave up the Cheshire connection.  It seems to me that the marriage 'fits' perfectly, particularly given that the names are not common and that Jane's maiden name is more or less confirmed in the registrations for her children.

Judith

[judb]

Jane SINGLETON's sad death, 19 August 1860

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/5688416

Judith

[majm]

Thanks to all of you who have gone to the time and trouble to dig up the info on Sarah and her parents. I suspect I am going to be kept extremely busy on the Landells/Singleton/Cutting lines over the next couple of weeks!

And may I also add a thank you to Cando for purchasing some Vic BDM official documents.    

JM

[anicalouw]

This is amazing!! I am the great grand daughter of Edward George Landells born March 24 Coburg Victoria Australia, married to Elzabeth Cutting, he is buried in Kalkbaai Western Cape South Africa. His daughter Adelaide Dorothy  married my grand father Hermanus Petrus Bosman Louw ( born 18/06 1892) from the Strand. This has been the most difficult part of my research. They had 4 children my father was Eric Edward Lionel Louw. He never introduced us to his grandparents that lived in the same town!!!! But since my Mother's death we found  a letter in which she says that she knew his grand parents, that they were Australian. They had one son and daughters . Everything on my father's side is a bit dodgy. He never  wanted to talk about them. His Mother Adelaide apparently did go back to Australia for a while and dumped the children with the Bosman family, and I think this is where the rift started. My father felt abandoned. He had two sisters Myra and Betsy ( who changed her name to Adelle and is still alive, had numerous husbands and I knew only one of her numerous children who were adopted by Myra) and a brother Eslin. According to gossip she, Adelaide, came back pregnant from Australia. One day when I was a teenager I went to the movies with my father Eric, and asked him why the lady who showed us the seat were always so friendly to me....he answered she is your grandmother!!!! The shock! If I can be of any help my Mother left a letter in her will to help us with her past.