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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #54 on: Sunday 19 February 17 04:10 GMT (UK) »
You said that you didn't have much information about Sarah Jane SINGLETON.  You may already have this, so apologies if I'm telling you what you already know.

The Australian Birth Index has two entries for a Sarah Jane SINGLETON, with slightly differing details which would be explained by the fact that Victoria was part of NSW until 1851

NSW 1843, #V18433252 27A, registered Melbourne, New South Wales, Australia
Sarah J SINGLETON   
Parents: Ralph Singleton, Jane

Victoria, 1843 #13559
Sarah J SINGLETON   
Parents: Ralph Singleton, Jane
Birth Place:   Brunswick, Victoria

There is are a couple of on-line trees which have photos of Sarah and James Douglas LANDELLS.

Would you like further information?

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 19 February 17 05:20 GMT (UK) »
The whole name thing is quite intiguing.  I suspect that Adam James born 1868 was not aware of his registered birth name until later in life.  He is recorded as just James right through to the time of his marriage and the births of his children.  Electoral rolls show him as mostly James, sometimes 'James Douglas' and then he suddenly starts using 'Adam James' in 1926.  Even with the flexibility of names it seems odd that he would start using his birth name at nearly 60 years of age.

And in the Coburg Leader Edward LANDELLS, a telegraph messenger, a witness at an enquiry into a death in 1892.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article66899821

Cando

I don't know, he appears to still be known as Adam James in July 1892 when he would have been aged 16.

Two boys, the sons of the late postmaster of Coburg, went out with their guns on Saturday, and worked along the Merri Creek. The eldest, A. J. Landells, brought down a rabbit, and when picking it up, a sharp-pointed knife which he carried in his pocket, entered causing a most painful wound. His brother, terribly frightened, ran for help, and fortunately alighted on a hunting party, amongst whom was a doctor. The medical huntsman staunched the poor boy's wound, and had him removed to his home, where he lies in a very bad state.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66900379

I would want to see the baptism records for the LANDELLS children, particularly the younger ones.


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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 19 February 17 05:47 GMT (UK) »
I think there's two lads that are confusing us at the moment...  I think there's Adam James (Jim) and Adam James Douglas.   I can see that at least one online tree has confused these two and assumed they are one.   

1868 Adam James (Jim) LANDELLS birth :  #4667
1876 Adam James Douglas LANDELLS birth : # 8239

I cannot find a VIC death for the lad born in 1876  ;D

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 19 February 17 05:50 GMT (UK) »
 :)

Is this Adam James (1868, Jim) marrying in Victoria in 1900 :

Jas LANDELLS and Sarah Edith RANKIN #1150

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 19 February 17 05:56 GMT (UK) »
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12448335 18 April 1940
Probate notice Adam James LANDELLS
death 3rd November 1939

Vic BDM death 1939
Adam James LANDELLS
Father's name Jas Douglas
Mother's maiden name Sarah (Singleton)
Reg. no 17423

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #59 on: Sunday 19 February 17 06:30 GMT (UK) »
I don't know why I am frustrated with this but commonsense tells me that the child born 1876, was known as Edward.  There was no twin.  Mother was informant and signed as such ::)

And his mother called him Eddie!!!!  Hoorah.
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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 19 February 17 06:34 GMT (UK) »
James and Sarah LANDELLS lived at Coburg and then by 1919 were in Ouyen where he was still James and 1926 enrolled to vote as Adam James living on a 'block' at Red Cliffs where he died.  Possibly the person accepting his enrolment at Red Cliffs asked the 'right' questions eg your full name.

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 19 February 17 06:40 GMT (UK) »
I had intended to spend some of my fh pennies tomorrow and download that birth certificate. 

Eddie, 6 years, as per his own mum (when registering Henry in 1882). 

Many thanks Cando.

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 19 February 17 08:04 GMT (UK) »
James and Sarah LANDELLS lived at Coburg and then by 1919 were in Ouyen where he was still James and 1926 enrolled to vote as Adam James living on a 'block' at Red Cliffs where he died.  Possibly the person accepting his enrolment at Red Cliffs asked the 'right' questions eg your full name.

Cando

When the couple registered this child in 1913, he used just James LANDELLS.

LANDELLS Noel Douglas
Father Jas
Mother Sarah Edith RANKIN
Birth Place BRUNSWICK NORTH
Year 1913
Reg.  1300

This man is deceased and buried at Red Cliffs.
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