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Re: George BINT, Melbourne Mint.
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 24 February 13 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Still waiting for George Bint's death cert  :)

In the mean time found a piece on his son Joshua Bint back here in England ,

death .
Thomas Grayson Eno. aged 8 years.
1st qrt, Boston reg, 1876.
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Lincolnshire Chronicle,  7th April 1876.

Leake, An inquest was held at Leake , on Thursday afternoon last, before W Clegg esq, coroner, on view of the body of Thomas Grayson Eno, a little boy of eight years.
The affair caused a little interest in the neighbourhood, as a rumour was afloat that the deceased had died from the effects of being struck on the head by the villiage schoolmaster, Mr Bint, at who's school He was a scholar.- Supt Thoresby investigated the case. and Mr B B Dyer attended to watch the proceedings on behalf of the police.-Several witnesses were called, who were scholars of the school, and generally deposed to Mr Bint the school master, chastising the boy by boxing him on the head with his fists, also to their belief that the schoolmaster boxed him more than the other boys.
Deceased's health was good until June last, when He began to be sickly, and frequently vomited and was found dead in bed on the evening of the 28th ult.- Dr Atkinson of Benington,attended the boy and also made a post mortem examination of the body. He found that effusion of blood on the brain was the cause of death, but could not say that the effusion was caused by any external violence. The whole of the appearances found at his examination might have been caused by disease occurring in a natural way. He considered the boxing of a child's ears in a violent way a most dangerous practise, but having heard the evidence, He could not say that such violence had contributed to death in the present case. The small bruise He found on the scalp could not have been caused by a box on the ear,-
Mr Bint , who was present, having been cautioned by the Coroner, declined to give evidence.-The Coroner summed up the evidence, directing the attention of the jury to that given by the doctor, after which He said it was useless to prolong the inquiry, though they might express an opinion with regard to the system of correction practised in the parish school.- The jury retired. and after being absent some time. returned the following verdict;- " That Thomas Grayson Eno, on the 28th day of March 1876, died from effusion on the brain, but whether such effusion was caused or accelerated by violence at the hands of Joshua Bint, the schoolmaster of the parish of Leake, or from disease occurring in the natural way, there is not sufficient evidence before the jury to show ".- The coroner read the verdict of the jury to Mr Bint and in a few remarks advised him never to strike a boy on the head again.
Mr Bint said He never would.

certainly keeping me busy, finding things out  ::)
EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford, Boston, Lincoln. LANES, from Coleby,to Bracebridge Lincoln.WAKEFIELD,PROUDMAN Cheshire and  Stafford.<br />PINDAR, MOORE, ,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

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Re: George BINT, Melbourne Mint.
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 24 February 13 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Still waiting for George Bint's death cert 

Hard to be patient I imagine!

What an awfully sad story about the little boy. We will never know the truth, but it must have been very hard for the Bint family too.

Sue
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Re: George BINT, Melbourne Mint.
« Reply #74 on: Monday 25 February 13 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Just arrived home from work, and here it is , how exciting is one piece of paper :)

so Margret Bint  ( his wife  ::) was with him at his demise ,

so need to find when they came to old Blighty and when she went back.

would love to know why they came back to England, unless that was how she could inherit his very small  ??? fortune.

Eilleen .   My attachment iwas to large  ::) ::) ::) not anymore  :-*
EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford, Boston, Lincoln. LANES, from Coleby,to Bracebridge Lincoln.WAKEFIELD,PROUDMAN Cheshire and  Stafford.<br />PINDAR, MOORE, ,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

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Re: George BINT, Melbourne Mint.
« Reply #75 on: Monday 25 February 13 23:11 GMT (UK) »
That is interesting indeed, Eilleen.

I am surprised at another thing shown on the certificate too....

Margaret was apparently illiterate. It is certainly a contrast to GEORGE's educational background.

Do you know the social and educational status of MARIA?

would love to know why they came back to England, unless that was how she could inherit his very small   fortune Eilleen

She would not need to be resident in England to inherit, so that would not be a reason. I do suspect that although the cash was a small amount, George may have invested in property in Melbourne which was in the hands of his daughter and MARGARET and in their names.  This way other "family" would have difficullty making claims on the estate.

Was JOSHUA still alive and were the daughters of GEORGE and MARIA married at Geroge's death? 

Sue

ADDING

I am adding another thought here which is only speculative :)
George died of paraplegia. This being an impairment of lower body motor function.
If this condition was slow in its development, GEORGE may have needed assistance on the voyage to London and so MARGARET accompanied him.  He may also have suspected his condition would not improve and had reasons for wishing to spend his last days in England.
Just thoughts anyway ;)

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Re: George BINT, Melbourne Mint.
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 27 February 13 11:59 GMT (UK) »
All ways more questions  :)

1, Have not found the parents of Maria Bint nee Sanders , I see from 1851 census onwards she is said to have come from Worchestershire , born abt 1824.  more searching  :)

Joshua Bint married in 1875, about 6 months before that little boy died at his school  :'(
Joshua lived till 1932 ( aged 81 )

his sister Marie Haddelsey married in 1881,  she lived till 1944,( aged 90 )

the other sister who visited her father in Australia when she was 11 years, I cannot seem to find after this
Residence1881
6, Stratford road,Aston, Warwickshire, England— Age: 20,  Ann Marie Bint
 ,occupation companion is crossed out and she is classed as a visitor.   more searching  :)

Maria Bint ( the wife ) died abt 3 years before George Bint came over and died  ::)
she left nothing to him or her son, or the younger daughter ( if she was still living )
her probate read
Maria Bint of 1, Southfield street, Aboretum, Worcester ( wife of George Bint )
died 20th March 1896.
probate 17th April to Marie Haddelsey , effects = £46 2s 6d

I just love all this, and Once again thank you for so much help   :-*
EXTON, from Rutland, Stamford, Boston, Lincoln. LANES, from Coleby,to Bracebridge Lincoln.WAKEFIELD,PROUDMAN Cheshire and  Stafford.<br />PINDAR, MOORE, ,CHAMBERS mostly from Lincolnshire.
LAING from Elgin ,Scotland.
 HADDELSEY from Caistor,and Grimsby Lincolnshire.                   
 Parfitt, Le Gros ,Le Sueur, from Jersey.
Martin, from Doncaster  to whelyn garden city, London.
BINT, Worchester, in Australian mint.

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Re: George BINT, Melbourne Mint.
« Reply #77 on: Wednesday 27 February 13 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Eilleen,
I am not a huge help with UK research, though others here certainly are.
The whereabouts of ANN MARIE would certainly be of interest.

The address where GEORGE died.... Allen Street....This seems to be a private home. Have you looked at the possibility it was connected to any of GEORGE's family?

To know more about MARGARET you would need to purchase Letitia's birth certificate, but, on the other hand, you may not  think a worthwhile direction to follow.

MARGARET's death certificate may hold something helpful.  As you will have seen from my previous link , Victorian Certificates are comprehensive and can be a treasure trove of information. However, I suspect Letitia (or her husband) would be the informant for the death and their knowledge could be flawed ;) But then...???  The instant download thing is tempting :P

Here are some links to tiny items about the young LETITIA.

Prizes to Letitia at school in North Melbourne in 1884.  She was in class 6.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/66160106?searchTerm="letitia bint"&searchLimits=

At a fancy dress ball in 1885
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/66155232?searchTerm="miss l bint  "&searchLimits=

In  blue satin at a ball in North Melbourne1889
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/66149554?searchTerm="miss bint  "&searchLimits=

This may or may not be your couple :D

Mr and mrs G bint visit Launceston
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/38346584?searchTerm="mrs g  bint"  &searchLimits=

Sue


 
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