George BINT, Melbourne Mint.

[BonnieDownUnder]

Hi Sue ...
If I am understanding your findings correctly, are you saying that Letitia Bint's mother Margaret RYAN died at Ballarat on 1st May 1881, aged 38 years? or have I lost the plot again 

I found in the Argus Newspaper, Melbourne 02 Oct 1906 page 1 a death notice placed by Letitia which reads 'BINT: On the 27th September at Ballarat, Margaret, widow of the late George Bint, and beloved mother of Mrs. E.C.N. Hayward, Toorak" and she too is buried in the Ballarat New Cemetery, location RCC, Section 4, Row 1 grave 14.

Would be pleased if you would set me straight on this one, thanks. Bonnie

[sparrett]

Hi Bonnie
My understanding now is that despite the string of co-incidences of names etc., The woman BINT married (or probably didn't really!) was not the the woman who had married THOMAS STEPHEN RYAN . 

MARGARET RYAN  had a number of children to her marriage in Ballarat and died there quite young and was buried with some of her infants in 1881.

MARGARET BINT, Letitia's mother, went to Ballarat and died there in 1906 after her "husband" GEORGE BINT returned to England and died there leaving his all to her.

I cannot figure why Margaret was RYAN on the birth reg of LETITIA and CARMODY on the death reg of LETITIA. Others may have asome further ideas. This is where I went in the wrong direction because MARGARET who married RYAN was nee CARMODY.

Sue

[BonnieDownUnder]

Hi Sue .... so, when I originally said, 'this has all gone off track' when Margaret Carmody and Mr. Ryan came into the story, I was right.

ErrorSPAM REPORT THIS POST AS SPAM (Use 'Report to Moderator'). DO NOT CLICK ON ANY LINKS IN THIS POST. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS PERSON.][/color]  Looks to me that Eilleen has some hunting to do to find if George & Margaret ever married and will need to fork out a few pennies buying birth and death certificates if she is keen to resolve the story about George Bint, Margaret ?? and their daughter Letitia ...  all rather interesting  ... and I feel that there is more to find out about 'Mr Bint at The Mint' and when did he returned to England, did Margaret go too?

Hi Eilleen ... you may have already found this C1841 Piece 921, Folio 36 page 17.  James Bint aged 40, Letitia 45, George 15, William 12.  Shows George born Shropshire.  Looks to me like George named his daughter after his mother ...
Bonnie

[sparrett]

Well, what you  said was --

Hello Eilleen ... sorry but I lost track of all that story when the Margaret Carmody bit came into the picture   

I understood this to mean you could not see the connection between the names  MARGARET RYAN  and MARGARET CARMODY in LETITIA's case (her birth and death registrations).

As I have said, I had gone on  draw to conclusions which were incorrect though the essential co-incidence of names etc. was valid.

Sue

 

[sparrett]

I wonder if MARIA BINT and her daughters cam to Australia to visit GEORGE.

BINT   MARIA aged    42   JUN   1873   QUEEN OF NATIONS   B   319
with-
BINT   MARY aged   18   
BINT   ANN MARIA aged   11

Sue

   

[BonnieDownUnder]

Sue ... what a great find ... looks very promising to me that Maria and her two daughters arrived into Australia in 1873.  Also found by Giblet, the three of them on C1871 ...  Piece 3127, Folio 78 page number 10,  with them living in Birmingham.   

... now that would have been an interesting meeting she would have had with George when she turned up to find he had a 'lady friend' who gave birth to his baby daughter 
 Bonnie

PS ... if you had read my first and second posts, page 1, you would had seen when Margaret and George Bint had passed away along with death notices in newspapers for both, inserted by daughter Letitia  ... it would have saved you a lot of un necessary effort and confusion ...

[BonnieDownUnder]

Hi Eilleen ... just an interesting snippet ... published in the Sheffield Independent newspaper 10 Aug 1881 page 3, also Stamford Mercury 12 Aug page 1: 
Marriage announcement of George & Maria's daughter:  Marie to S.T. Haddelsey, a solicitor of Grimsby on 04 Aug at St. Oswald's Church Filey.  It stated that she was the daughter of George Bint, Royal Mint, Melbourne, Australia. 
Therefore, we know that George was still in Australia by at least 1881.
Bonnie

[sparrett]

Therefore, we know that George was still in Australia by at least 1881.
Bonnie

Yes, that's right.
Ros's reply #4 shows him listed in Melbourne from 1880 to 1898.

Sue

[Eilleen]

Hi , from not a snowy Blighty but a sunny one 

Sue , the find regarding Maria and daughters going over to Australia is amazing, more " meat on the bone "    I just love it.
I tend to get pulled in to the females in my research, even the one's who are not related , i.e  this Margret and her daughter are going to be next on my list 
but at the moment I am going to try and stay focused on George Bint and his first family.
It was good to see Ann Maria aged 11 mentioned , I lost her at some point , where as Marie ( called Mary on the going over to Australia ) and her brother Joshua are well researched to there where abouts , I have so many questions buzzing in my head, I better take a deep breath look over what you have all found , log it, and not feel to guilty because I have done the ironing, washed the floor and vacumed bits of are home , so computer can have my attention. x x