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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 07 March 13 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Theresa

To save you some time when you get to ireland, I will have a look at the Kilkeel parish records for you and let you know if I can find Mary Jane.  If you wanted to visit the church in Kilkeel, you would have to ring in advance and make an appointment and not all priests are happy with people looking at the originals.  You are probably better off just going to PRONI, especially if you are looking for records before 1880.

I haven't come across any place name in Co. Down like Dungallon, it sounds more like Dungannon, Co Tyrone.  It is possible that James and Sarah moved to Rostrevor looking for work.

Wil get back to you next week, once I have looked at the Kilkeel records.

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #10 on: Friday 08 March 13 02:08 GMT (UK) »
That would be great, thank you Deirdre.  :)
I checked LDS on line catalogue, but they do not have the microfilms for the Parish of Kilkeel.
Look forward to hearing from you.
Theresa 

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 March 13 11:37 GMT (UK) »
There is a townland called Dunnamon in Kilkeel Parish.  I bet this is it, as two lls can look like m!!
Here is a link to a map of the Parish of Kilkeel.  You will see that Dunnamon (no. 23) is on the Rostrevor Road.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/MAPS/KilkeelTownlands.htm



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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 March 13 11:42 GMT (UK) »
You will find details of Dunnamon R.C. church at this link.  Same website as before.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/PHOTOSwords/KilkeelAll.htm#glass

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 10 March 13 12:10 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rosemary,
Ros Davies' County Down is an excellent site!

Theresa

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 13 March 13 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Theresa

I searched the Kilkeel parish records in the National Library in Dublin and unfortunately, it looks like James and Sarah didn't live in that parish before they moved to Kilbroney (Milltown).  There was a James McDermott having children in that timeframe but his wife was called Mary Sloan.

As you said, they had 3 children in Kilbroney - Sarah b. 1851, Elizabeth b. 1857 and Rose Anne in 1860.  I could find no other children for this couple in Kilbroney.   You may already have this information but I did find what I believe is the burial record for Sara(h) in 1866. 

29 April 1866
The record does not give an age but if you look at the online civil death records there is

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 13 March 13 15:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry!  Hit the wrong button and sent the message prematurely!

I meant to say that Sarah's burial record is :

29 Apr 1866   Sara McDermott, Parks

There is a death for a Sarah McDermott on the online civil death records site which gives her age which ties in with the birth of James and Sarah's daughter b. 1851.

Death: Sarah Mcdermot, age 15, 1866 Kilkeel Registration District Volume 6  Page 483

There is also what appears to be the death of her sister Rose Anne (for some reason the priests in Kilbroney parish did not list the burial records of young children)

Death: Rose Anne Mcdermot , age 6, 1866 Kilkeel Registration District Volume 6 Page 483

Rostrevor/Kilbroney is located in Kilkeel registration district.

Parks is a small area just outside Rostrevor on the road to Hilltown located in Kilbroney townland.  Newtown (I wrote Milltown by mistake in my previous posting) is just over the way from Parks, so they may have moved there some time after Sarah and Rose Anne's death.  You can order these certs from www.groireland.ie - it is cheaper to order the photocopy rather than the actual cert.

There is also a burial record for an Elizabeth McDermott :

9 Jan 1877  Elizabeth McDermot, Newtown, aged 61.   

Unfortunately I cannot find her death on the online death records, but I believe not all deaths are up on that website https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FRPK-24Q  You would be able to order the cert from the GRO in Belfast if you visit there in May.

This Elizabeth could be James' sister going by her age. 

Sorry that I could not be of any real help.  Kilbroney is my native parish and I am very familiar with these records and the  Morrison surname is not a common one in that area.  It is probable that they moved from another county to Rostrevor in search of work, so don't discount Dungannon, Co Tyrone.  There is a Roman Catholic parish called Dungannon in the diocese of Armagh.  Their records start early (1826) and you would be able to access them at PRONI.

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #16 on: Friday 15 March 13 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Deirdre,
You have been more than helpful. You've given me the name of the other McDermott child. Sarah! :)
Rosemary Joan had sent me copies of  Elizabeths & Rose Ann's birth and of another child  McDermot No Name or sex baptised in 1851 (Roots Ireland - page torn & faded) How sad to have lost both Sarah & Rose Ann in the same year. 
I have found a marriage of a James McDermot to Sarah Morrison in Dungannon, Tyrone in June 1835. For this to be them, Sarah would have had to been 17 for her to be still childbearing in 1860.
I appreciate the time you have taken to check out the Kilkeel records for me.
Thank you for the info,
Theresa
     

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Re: Help with finding Sarah McDermott's maiden name
« Reply #17 on: Friday 15 March 13 12:52 GMT (UK) »
I have found a marriage of a James McDermot to Sarah Morrison in Dungannon, Tyrone in June 1835. For this to be them, Sarah would have had to been 17 for her to be still childbearing in 1860.

She could have easily been having children up to age 50 so keep that in mind when trying to figure out Sarah's year of birth.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!