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Was William TABB bc1812 Merther married twice?
« on: Sunday 10 February 13 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I think that my William Tabb bc1812 Merther was married twice but would appreciate if someone can confirm I am on the right track, thanks.

C1841 piece 147. book 16, folio 7 page 6 shows a William Tabb 27, Elizabeth 30 and presumably their children Elizabeth 4 and William 1.

I am unable to find a William with a wife Elizabeth and above children on C1851 and so far best match is with a wife Maria, piece 1901 folio 114 page 5 which shows William Tabb 39, Maria  35, and children Elizabeth 14, William 9 and James 5 residing at Truro.

FreeBDM shows an Elizabeth Tabb died Q3/1849 9/241 at Truro and that a William Tabb married a Anna Maria Keast Q1/1851 9/359 at Truro.

I am tracing William junior born Q4/1839 9/327 Truro who died Sydney 1880 however his death certificate only shows father's name of William.  Obviously I should purchase his birth certificate to see parents names but before doing so, would like another option to confirm that I haven't missed something with my search.
Thanks.
PS William junior married a Isabella Rowe in 1858 and they, along with daughter Bessie, immigrated to Australia in 1879; sadly he died a year later.




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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 February 13 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Hiya yes i think he married twice have gone over the censuses and came up with what you did .This looks like the burial Elizabeth Tabb 13th July 1849 age 40 in Kenwyn Residence St Clements.The areas fit with census details.But i would still send for birth cert to be certain.

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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 February 13 19:49 GMT (UK) »
Heres something to keep on file possible baptism of William senior
Baptism in Probus(right area)
24th July 1814
William Tabb
Father-William (occ-Lab)
Mother-Mary
Address-High Lane in Probus

Genuki Cornwall good if you not sure of areas

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Amor/Amer-Bromham Wiltshire,Hertfordshire,Suffolk.
Pyett-Suffolk
Wolfenden-Cambridgeshire,Huntingdonshire
Bird,Nash-Essex.
Anderson,-London.Bethnal Green,Shoreditch,Hackney
King-,Uxbridge,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green
Edwards,Roberts,Lane,Price,Williams-Llanelli.
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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 February 13 20:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi Welsh Lady
Many thanks your messages.  My geography of Cornwall, infact most of the UK, is not very good so thanks for the tip.
Now looking for William's marriage to Elizabeth but not having much success on family search.  Any suggestions?
Thanks again Bonnie
PS Did find an article in the Royal Cornwall Gazette about William assaulting Maria in 1859 though it looks like they 'kissed and made up' as they were still together until she passed away in 1887!!


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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 February 13 21:42 GMT (UK) »
A possible first marriage -- Kea is also in the right-ish area (google maps is pretty good for finding all the little place names):

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=809856

William Tabb + Elizabeth Carne, 11 June 1837, witnesses were Richard Carne Sr and Jr.

... There is a baptism in 1843 in Kenwyn for Julian Carne Tabb who would surely be a child of theirs, but I can't find any later record for that name: burial, marriage or death. Could wel be a child who died in infancy. There was also a Catherine daughter of William and Elizabeth baptised in St Clement, which is where William and Maria are living in 1851.

This is the link to the Elizabeth Tabb burial Welsh Lady refers to:
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1493847

I expect this is Maria Keast's baptism, given William's place of birth:
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=2813911
Merther, 19 March 1820, daughter of Grace Keast, single woman

But the Cornwall OPC site isn't coming up with anything else useful.

An online parish clerk might be able to help you with parish records that have not been transcribed yet. William Jr was born in Kea, according to the 1851 census:
http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/h_k/kea.php


I agree with you both that you have the right people in 41 and 51.
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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 February 13 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi JaneyCanuck ... Many thanks for all the info and leads, much appreciated.  Sorting through it all plus glad to know that that I was on the right track as to whom William jnr mother was so will go ahead and purchase his birth certificate
Bonnie

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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 February 13 23:41 GMT (UK) »
Just a note that the GRO index per FreeBMD shows the Julian Carne Tabb baptism I referred to as Juliana Carne Tabb (after some dithering with name corrections), 1842 Truro, but still no later reference to be found.

Oh, no, interesting: in 1851, Anc'y shows Julianna no surname (I searched just for jul* in Cornwall born 1841-43), born c1842 Kenwyn, living with Richard and Sarah Carne (mistranscribed Corne), obviously Juliana's grandparents, in Kenwyn. No surname is shown on the original census image. There is also a Robert Carne next door, who would be a son of that couple.

This would be consistent with her mother being deceased, so I think the William Tabb + Elizabeth Carne marriage is very likely correct and Julianna is a sister of your William. So if William Jr's birth cert confirms that mother, this info should help. ;)

And in 1861 she is transcribed as Julian Tabb, born c1842 Kenwyn Cornwall, in East Stonehouse, Devon. (Moving over to the Plymouth side was very common in that era.)
(Just for ruling out: in 1871 she is not, as I was first going to say she might be, Julianna Woodley, married to Thomas with two children, born c1844 Kenwyn, in Kenwyn in 1871. That marriage was Thomas Woodley + Julia A Oates 1866 Truro, Juliana Oates being in the 1861 census.)

There is also a Jane Tabb with Juliana in East Stonehouse in 1861, aged 24, born Kenwyn Cornwall.

Richard Carne married Sarah Dinnis in Kea 1803.
Richard and Sally Carne had a daughter Juliana Carne in Kea 1807. That is the only baptism to Richard and Sarah/Sally Carne showing in the database. She would be the recent source of the name of Julianna Tabb.

Also note that the Catherine Tabb I referred to died at age 4 months in St Clement in 1844:
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=977842
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1739920
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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 February 13 01:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi JaneyCanuck ... thanks once again for all the information, you have certainly have gone out of your way and it is most appreciated.
Bonnie

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Re: Was William Tabb bc1812 Merther married twice?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 February 13 01:44 GMT (UK) »
You're quite welcome; love finding the pieces of the puzzle. ;)

You just have to come back with the birth cert info when you have it so we know whether this was all on the right track or not!  ;D
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