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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 10 February 13 11:59 GMT (UK) »

Greensleeves and Supermossi thank you for your input  :)

you make good points about hacking.  It makes you think about the wider implications of online trees...  to be honest something I never really thought about.... but I will now   :)

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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 February 13 07:07 GMT (UK) »
Not wishing to scare you too much  ;) but think of it this way:-

What information does your bank ask to identify yourself online or over the phone? Probably 2 or 3 of the following:-

  • Account No
  • Password
  • Address
  • Date of Birth
  • Place of Birth
  • Mothers Maiden Name

If you're putting details of your relatives on a genealogy website you will probably be supplying the last 3 of those. Address can usually be found via Electoral Roll lookups (opting out of it doesn't hide your details from the commercial verison of the roll which can be accessed online). All that a bunch of criminals need to do is get your account No & password, which they can do by phishing scams and the like and, hey presto, they have total access to your relatives accounts! That will be a nice surprise for them ;)

Another nightmare story to think about is that some paedophile rings apparently harvest pictures of children from websites for dubious purposes. Do you really want photos of your nephews/nieces/cousins in the hands of these guys?  ???

Companies like to encourage us to put our information on their sites as the more info they have the more marketable they are but what is really in it for us? Of course they will say they will keep the info safe but if people like Gary McKinnon can hack repeatedly into heavily resourced US Military and NASA computers, and the British Government departments have a  habit of leaking information, what chance is there that small companies can realistically protect themselves from hacker gangs? Virtually none..

I don't mean to give you nightmares but we really need to weigh up what we are gaining from giving websites this valuable information and what we can lose from it..

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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 February 13 11:49 GMT (UK) »
For the very reasons that supermoussi has outlined, I am very cautious and never put details about living people or their parents (even when they have died) in my online family trees. Maybe that prevents me making a few connections but I would rather protect the identities of family members if possible, even if there are other ways to find out these details online. Chrisann
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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 February 13 11:53 GMT (UK) »

thank you Supermoussi,  your points are very valid and well made - I am suitable scared  :) :)

"food for thought" for sure

cheers !
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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #13 on: Monday 11 February 13 12:07 GMT (UK) »


Hi Chrisann,

I think thats the thing  -  making connetions -  you think you are going to get more infor - but as pointed out here - the downside is to big to be worth the risk...   I just felt uneasy because I didn't auctually know these people.    But thanks to this board I know better now  :) :)
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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 14 February 13 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Is there a way to make people's information private on Ancestry?
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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 14 February 13 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi BordersCrafter,

You can have a completely Private tree on Ancestry,  and if you want to see any details on it you have to contact to owner.

also ancestry does not show info on " living people " but I think the point made here is if the site is hacked...... well then it's a free for all really  :(
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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 16 February 13 07:25 GMT (UK) »
but I think the point made here is if the site is hacked...... well then it's a free for all really  :(

Absolutely, but not only is your data vulnerable to hackers trying to find personal data to sell on the black market, it is also vulnerable to hard up staff stealing the data on CD/USB sticks and then selling it too. The last survey I read found that there are as many data thefts made by inside staff as there are by external hackers :-\

Using privacy options on websites only reduces the chance of data theft very slightly..

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Re: Etiquette for adding people to a family tree online
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 19 February 13 09:30 GMT (UK) »
There has been quite a lot of talk about privacy & security in the press in the last few days.

Another aspect mentioned is people's rights to privacy. Would you like someone to give your personal details to some commercial organisation without asking for your permission? If not, you will be able to imagine how your relatives will feel about you giving away their info willy nilly. You won't exactly be flavour of the month.

Instead of drawing families closer together online trees have the potential to cause rifts in families..