Hayward Newbury Plymouth Brethren

[daganta]

HAYWARD LOOKUP:  George Walter Hayward (used Walter in Canada) born Newbury, Berkshire 1845-50.  Married Ruth from Chelvey bucks and immigrated to Quebec Canada 1884.  the family belonged to the 'Plymouth Brethren' in Sherbrooke Quebec where there was a large congregation (?) of this group.  I have looked into the other George Haywards in Newbury at that time but so far can not make connection. I did notice that Newbury, at that time, had a Lower Meeting House Independant parish and cemetery?

1871 George Walter was living Upton With Chalvey, Buckinghamshire, England
Geo 26 (or 28 or 27 every census was different age.) born Newbury Berks approx 1845 labourer, wife Ruth 26 Born Chelvey Bucks and some of his children.  Then they lived in Kensington for awhile before immigrating to Canada.  Thank you Thankyou!

[Kevin22]

Hi I had a g g grand mother  Frances Hayward Married Joseph Leader. she was born in 1855, InkPen, Died, 1892.

[KGarrad]

What were George's parents names?
The marriage certificate will contain his father's name.

Marriage:March qtr 1869
Eton district    vol 3a, page 481

Hayward, George
+ and on the same page +
Garner, Ruth

[newburychap]

I did notice that Newbury, at that time, had a Lower Meeting House Independant parish and cemetery?

Newbury had/has several nonconformist chapels/churches - the Independents are now the United Reform Church. Their records post-1837 are at the BRO.

The Brethren also had a meeting house from c1860 when they took over the old Baptist Meeting House in Northcroft Lane. Presumably they were around earlier in order to build a large enough congregation to warrant such premises.

[daganta]

Thank you so much. 

KGarrad:  I had been searching for Ruth Gardner but Garner was listed on her daughter's marriage in Sherbrooke Que.  I had focused on trying to find Walter (Geo) but you sent me on a new quick search and I just found her living with her parents in 1861 census (Eton district).  With all the lines I have been researching I had not put as much focus on her, you just helped me open that up. 

Newburychap:  That clinched it.  My mother mentioned that her grandmother in Toronto used to say thee and thou and didn't know why until I discovered this religious connection in Quebec. Her grandfather Fred Hayward died when she was very young.  This may help in finding the right Walter/George Hayward as there are a few born in Newbury and there may have been a group in Chalvey.

Kevin22:  Walter and Ruth would be my g g grandparents as well and after finding this whole family (my mother knew nothing about) in Toronto and Sherbrooke I am very excited to find his Hayward family in Newbury.  I had read that the origin of the name was that it described a 'ward' who had a side deal of 'hay'?

Thanks again before going out to shovel through this few feet of snow I will have fun working with these clues!

[candrjm]

Could  this be the marriage for your George & Ruth??

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NJJM-S31

Chris

[daganta]

Yes! Thank you.  I am so sorry to have bothered you all the last time I was checking so much of this was not available.  I keep forgetting to check FS as they have all those new records!  Now I have his father as Thomas Hayward so will check on that next. I have learned after so many years that you just have to go with the ancestors who are revealing themselves...I had no plans to check into the Haywards until I posted a request on the berkshire forum about a Martin transported from or was from Berks in 1749 and thought I might as well post my Haywards.   I have not moved for the last couple of hours as I have been  tracing Ruth Garner's mother Fanny and Slough and the Sun is out.  Thank you all so much especially for Thomas!

[newburychap]

I had read that the origin of the name was that it described a 'ward' who had a side deal of 'hay'?

? 

It's a occupation surname, like Carpenter, Smith, or Shepherd.

A hayward was a job/post in mediaeval society - every manor had one or more.  Their job was to ensure that everyone was obeying the decisions of the manorial management in terms of farming their bit of the common field etc.  The hayward was appointed annually at the manorial court, often leading citizens would take it in turn to do the duty (unpaid).  If someone decided they liked the job and took it on for a decade or two they could well move from the hayward John to John Hayward.

[daganta]

That is a clearer explanation thank you it would be great if I could get back farther to uncover more hayward occupations.  englishorigenes.com takes your Ydna test results to get back to the original ancestor/s who were first awarded the surname....I had not thought it through that far. I found out a lot about Ruth Garner Haywards family yesterday but have not found anything on George Walter Hayward and his father Thomas so I will have to order the marriage cert.  I am still waiting for the docs on my Irish Hayes Liverpool sheltering home records to arrive from Bernardos.   Thanks again