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Re: Hayward Newbury Plymouth Brethren
« Reply #18 on: Monday 25 February 13 17:14 GMT (UK) »
really is becoming an interesting topic.  I had never heard of them until I found these quebec records for ancestors I had never heard of.  My mother didn't remember her grandfather much except for his funeral in Toronto which was quite something she said as he was a 'bobby' in the toronto police force having entered into it straight from the army.  She was only 12 or so at the time.  She does however remember her grandmother used "thee" and "thou" and she never knew why...it is not from her irish ancestors in nova scotia. 

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Re: Hayward Newbury Plymouth Brethren
« Reply #19 on: Monday 25 February 13 17:44 GMT (UK) »
She does however remember her grandmother used "thee" and "thou" and she never knew why...it is not from her irish ancestors in nova scotia.

The Quakers [aka Society of Friends] were using those expressions well into the 19th Century ..... ::)
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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Re: Hayward Newbury Plymouth Brethren
« Reply #20 on: Monday 25 February 13 18:01 GMT (UK) »
since she was a staunch catholic i figured it must have come from her husband fred hayward as most of the Berks/Quebec haywards moved to Toronto which is why fred went there and it may have been from his siblings and parents who were there for a while.  have you ever heard of the PB using those terms?

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Re: Hayward Newbury Plymouth Brethren
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 26 February 13 04:06 GMT (UK) »
I have no knowledge of the expressions used by PB but I 'Googled' Plymouth Brethren and was surprised with all the details and mention of their Irish origins.

It appears very unlikely that we will ever establish Newbury 'Brethren' membership but 'Alfred Brown, Ministering Brother, Mr. Westalls Yard Newbury', was able to provide attendance numbers for 30 March 1851 [6 morning;  40 afternoon; and 6 evening] and indicate that the building was converted for use about 1846.   
SOM/Chard/Combe St Nicholas/Ilminster:  Dean[e]/Doble/Jeffery/Burt;  DEV/Yarcombe:  Dean/Gill/Every; 
BRK/Newbury:  Westall/Green/Lewis/Canning;  WIL/Allcannings:  Hiscock/Amor;  Froxfield:  Hobbs/Green;  HAM/Kingsclere:  Martin/Hiscock/Westall;  WAR/Marton/Bubbenhall:  Glenn/Holmes;  STS/Yoxall/Hamstall Ridware/Barton-u-Needwood:  Holmes/Dainty;  STS/Brewood/Codsall/Penkridge/Hatherton:  Dean[e]; GLA/Aberdare:  Dean/Dane

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