TARTAKOVAR family history

[sparrett]

Death in New Zealand
1942/24359   HOLMES
Jessie Sinclair
Aged   73 years


Death Notice
HOLMES, Jessie. On June 20 at Otaki New Zealand Jessie beloved wife of Aretas J HOLMES and loving sister of Mrs ROBERTSON and Misses M. and M. A. Sutherland, Gilberton.

Thurs 25th June 1942
Adelaide Advertiser.

Sue

[M S Harmer]

Sorry typo on Jessie's details, should have read 15 March 1859, Glasgow, Lanark.
And also journal written by James Sutherland b. 8 March 1857. Oldest son to James Sutherland and Mary Buchan. First marriage.

[majm]

Sorry typo on Jessie's details, should have read 15 March 1859, Glasgow, Lanark.
And also journal written by James Sutherland b. 8 March 1857. Oldest son to James Sutherland and Mary Buchan. First marriage.

Please recheck ... you have already given that dob for Jessie,  it is not the right one to be the girl on the voyage in 1877 ... and you  have already given that William  wrote the journal....  does the journal actually say that its author is William or James or someone else ...  and does it actually also say that author was born 8 March 1857 ....

JM
 

[sparrett]

Sorry typo on Jessie's details, should have read 15 March 1859, Glasgow, Lanark.
And also journal written by James Sutherland b. 8 March 1857. Oldest son to James Sutherland and Mary Buchan. First marriage.

Martin
The first Jessie must have died or moved away.

She Did Not come to Australia

You can see the age at death of the Jessie Who Came to Australia



I have given it to you.

You need to correct your information to be accurate.

Sue

[majm]

From the online INDEX at familysearch
Here is a possible birth with parents as James SUTHERLAND and Martha TULLOCH
Jessie SUTHERLAND,  27 February  1870, High Church, Glasgow, Lanark
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQ3L-4LD 

The above info is ONLY my transcription of an ONLINE INDEX so if this were my family I would be saving pennies to download the actual record of that birth from Scotland’s People to check if there’s the usual Scottish depth of detail on their birth registrations. …. Occupation of father, street address etc etc etc….

JM

[majm]

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FQVN-5ZC

This is an entry on an  index noting a James SUTHERLAND was born 8 March 1857.  Yes, it has the 'right' names for the parents, but it is only an index, the actual document will hopefully give info about the occupation for the father ... and again, Scotland's People should have the document.

JM

[majm]

The Glasgow Daily Herald,  Tuesday, December 27, 1864.
Page 3
DEATHS
….
At 152 Duke Street on the 25th instant, Mary Buchan, wife of Mr James Sutherland.

The National Library of Australia has, for many years, provided online access to holders of their Readers Cards.     See:

https://www.nla.gov.au/getalibrarycard/
and
https://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/
and
https://www.nla.gov.au/app/eresources/item/4505

That address is same as the 1871 Census address.   

JM

[M S Harmer]

Thanks for that. Also you had me thinking about Jessie so I dug out an old address book that belonged to my g grandmother Ethel Hannah Sutherland nee Payne, and as luck would have it she had Jessie's birthday 27 Feb 1870. So thankyou.

[sparrett]

You are welcome.
When John Donald SUTHERLAND died of wounds at Gallipoli, his mother Martha was his NOK.
It was not until 1969 that his nephew Donald Ross STHERLAND applied for the Gallipoli medal due to the family.

The letter in the file mentions his (Donald Ross's) twin brother Harold James (the pair were born in 1917 according to SA indexing) and of course his sister Gladys Ethel HARMER, nee SUTHERLAND born 1911.

Marr.
1936   372/4124    HARMER    Urlwin Kempson
SUTHERLAND Gladys Ethel

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/

Sue