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Re: Im new on here need look up on HULANCE/PARADINE PLEEEEASE :)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:04 GMT (UK) »
H Carol i do have a copy which was sent to me via microsoft word of the coroners report. She had gassed herself after becoming down after her partner Mr Paradine left. wondered if theres any cencus of them all living together which would give his first name. They must have been together a while as my nan Phylis cecelia used the Paradine name through her life.
Where would we find a copy of the will?

Hi MargP the informents were her listed parents ~Phylis and Edward.
The Edward you found is the correct one.

I have my nans birth death and marriage certs, i have no info on Phylis Hulance just that she was PCs mother. I need to link her to Emily. There is a Emily Prudence Hulance whos birth and death dates fit with my coronors report , b 26.7.1886 (which is 2 years out if she was 52) d 5.4.1948 which is same date.
Someone i was intouch with found me that info and made a tree which he sent saying her parents were Jane Norris Hulance 30.12.1877 whos partner was Richard William Carter, they also had a child Sybil Irene Carter c1900, im guessing Richard wasnt Emilys dad if she dint get his surname but Sybil did?

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Re: Im new on here need look up on HULANCE/PARADINE PLEEEEASE :)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Emily prudence Hulance was baptised in wiltshire

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:30 GMT (UK) »
Emily prudence Hulance was baptised in wiltshire

From what I remember of looking yesterday,isn't that one too old...born in 1877?

Here's how to get a will- odd that a lady of 52 had even written one back in 1948?
Had she thought she was going to die ?

All the info you need is on
www.justice.gov.uk/courts/probate

Click on the left, 6 items down, on "copies of wills and admins"
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:35 GMT (UK) »
She gassed herself as she was very unhappy so she had planned to do it.
It has also been said that my nans family were very wealthy so that could be the reason why too.

Jane norris was Emilys mother, Jane 1877 and Emily 1896


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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:37 GMT (UK) »
H Carol i do have a copy which was sent to me via microsoft word of the coroners report. She had gassed herself after becoming down after her partner Mr Paradine left. wondered if theres any cencus of them all living together which would give his first name. They must have been together a while as my nan Phylis cecelia used the Paradine name through her life.
Where would we find a copy of the will?

Hi MargP the informents were her listed parents ~Phylis and Edward.
The Edward you found is the correct one.

I have my nans birth death and marriage certs, i have no info on Phylis Hulance just that she was PCs mother. I need to link her to Emily. There is a Emily Prudence Hulance whos birth and death dates fit with my coronors report , b 26.7.1886 (which is 2 years out if she was 52) d 5.4.1948 which is same date.
Someone i was intouch with found me that info and made a tree which he sent saying her parents were Jane Norris Hulance 30.12.1877 whos partner was Richard William Carter, they also had a child Sybil Irene Carter c1900, im guessing Richard wasnt Emilys dad if she dint get his surname but Sybil did?
Hi, I was just about to post that Jane Norris Carter may be Emily's mother, don't worry to much about the date of birth on DC the information is only as good as the informants knowledge, what address was given on Phylis C, BC it seems strange she was born in Liverpool, have you considered that Emily and Phylis may be the same person
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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 09 February 13 10:12 GMT (UK) »
Ree,

You could do with a look up of the electoral rolls at Park Hill Close Carshalton before 1948 to see if Mr Paradine was living there with Emily.

Try the Carshalton library https://www.sutton.gov.uk/index.aspx?articleid=41 they open at 7am !!!

Or the Surrey Record office at http://www.ancestor-search.info/CRO-Surrey.htm

Don't forget that they didn't take electoral rolls during the war years of 39-45 though.

Have no idea how much they charge but you can only ask  ;D

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« Reply #15 on: Saturday 09 February 13 11:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I can see no records for the mother, Phylis Hulance, any where, so am leaning towards that Emily and Phylis are the same person, why did she go out of her area, to have the baby in Liverpool

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
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Parker Stafford.
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Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 09 February 13 14:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The only Edward Hetherton I could find is

1891 Scotland Census

Edward Hetherton b 1860 Lesmahagow Lararkshire occ Registered Dental Surgeon
Elizabeth Hetherton b 1860
David Hetherton b 1881

Margp

Edward R A Hetherton died age 69 in Birkenhead in June 1935.

Could that be the same one and if so at least you know he wasn't that far from Liverpool!

David C Hetherton and his mum Elizabeth left Glasgow on 30 Apr 1910 bound for Canada- they are together in Vancouver on the 1911 census ,where she dies on 18 Aug 1936 and David dies on  7 Dec 1962.

Now to see what happened to dad Edward!

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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 09 February 13 14:29 GMT (UK) »
I have found Edward on the 1861 Scottish census born Lesmahagow, Lanarkshire,his mum was called Cecilia (sounds familiar!).

Carol
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