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Im new on here need look up on HULANCE/PARADINE PLEEEEASE :)
« on: Friday 08 February 13 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi i have been suffering years trying to find out the correct info.
My nan was called Pat Priest in later life but there is no record of her actually marrying, so i am guessing she just called herself the surname of the man she was with.
On her birth certificate she is Phylis cecelia Hetherton 21.1.1918Liverpool, her father listed as  Edward Richard Hetherton Dental surgeon and mother Phylis Hulance matron. My nan had used the surname Paradine and i was always confused why if her parents were Hetherton and Hulance.
I have not been able to find any info atall on Phylis Hulance.
A year ago i had some help from a couple of people of people who found an Emily Hulance Paradine coronors record, She had gassed herself and her daughter Phylis cecelia Picton( my nans married name) had found her, she had been living with her mother with her 2 children (my mum and aunt).
It states that her partner a Mr Paradine had left (doesnt mention a first name though) and she had become very low and taken her life.
So this is obviously where the Paradine name came from that my nan used, my mum and nan have passed away and i dont have contact with my aunt, but when my mum was alive she had told my dad about her nan gassing herself so it was definately the right person.......
BUT why Emily and not Hulance???
I am guessing my nan was adopted and didnt even know!? She thought Emily was her mother, apparently they had an aunt phylis so im wondering if Phylis passed her over to Emily but stayed in contact.
The coroners report was 1948 and states Emily had been 52 when she died.
12 ParkHill close Carshalton is the address that they were living at, It states Emilys father had been a farmer and was deceased at this time, but his name is blocked out.,

I would love if someone could help me on this, i have been doing my tree for 7 years now and am completely stumped on all of this. I would like to find out the connection between Phylis and EMily Hulance. And trace a line to maybe find relations of them. I have lots of photos that were my nans and i would like to know who they are.

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Re: Im new on here need look up on HULANCE/PARADINE PLEEEEASE :)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 February 13 23:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat!

They're quite unusual names and you'd hope easy to research but obviously not!  I had a quick look on the London Gazette for Hulance or Paradine but nothing jumped out of the results as being the right people.

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk

I couldn't find any reference to either name on the Old Bailey Online site

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org

but you might have more luck.  Will have a think about where else to look but didn't want you to think no-one would reply  :)

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Re: Im new on here need look up on HULANCE/PARADINE PLEEEEASE :)
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 February 13 23:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Roots

I am looking too

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Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
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Parker Stafford.
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Re: Im new on here need look up on HULANCE/PARADINE PLEEEEASE :)
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 February 13 23:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi there and welcome to Rootschat.

Well she was born to an unmarried mum!

Births Mar 1918   

Hulance    Phylis C   mmn Hulance    Liverpool    8b   87   
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 February 13 23:58 GMT (UK) »
There is an National Probate Entry for Emily's 1948 death.

Emily Hulance Paradine (SPINSTER) of 11/12 Park Hill Close Carshalton Surrey died 5th April 1948 probate London to solicitors Geoffrey Newbury and Romilly Southwood Ouvry Effects £5369 2s 6d.

So there should be a will to be had.
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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 February 13 00:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi

The only Edward Hetherton I could find is

1891 Scotland Census

Edward Hetherton b 1860 Lesmahagow Lararkshire occ Registered Dental Surgeon
Elizabeth Hetherton b 1860
David Hetherton b 1881

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Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
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Coley Dudley.
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Parker Stafford.
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Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 February 13 00:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi there and welcome to Rootschat.

Well she was born to an unmarried mum!

Births Mar 1918   

Hulance    Phylis C   mmn Hulance    Liverpool    8b   87
Hi Carol, she is also registered under Hetherton, same ref number, also her marriage to Harry T Picton, is registered under both Hertheton and Paradine.
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
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Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
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Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 February 13 08:39 GMT (UK) »
Oh yeah so she is.

Well she was probably born to an unmarried mum,but her father took responsibility for her then?
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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 February 13 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ree

On the BC for Phylis C Hertherton/Hulance b 1918, what address was given and who were the informants

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich