Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby

[minotauros]

Where do you find the time to do all those searches, Rosie?

You are a good tracker, exactly on the right family (I mean that of a Samuel son of Walter & Ann). From the late dates at which you find them still in England, I'd be surprised to discover any of the other children migrated in Canada or the USA.

Walter Mead, the father, born c1827, is very probably a member of Isaac Mead & Ann ..., from Tilshead and parents of (from Family Search):
Emily (b 21.07.1822)
Rhode (b 20.02.1825)
Walter (b 18.03.1827)
Samuel (b 22.02.1829)
Sarah Ann (b 06.02.1831)
Martha (b 07.08.1833)
Mary (b 07.09.1835)
Hannah (b 12.11.1837, d 24.05.1846)
all in the Tilshead registers.

You'll surely note that similar names among the above children of Isaac and those of his son Walter...

Pleased to hear from you!

M

[minotauros]

Hello...


I searched late last night and again today in the Quebec Passenger Lists Index 1865-1900 (from Library and Archives Canada site) for a Samuel Mead(e): none!

For a Mead(e) arriving in 1870 (year declared in the 1901 census):
- William, aged 58
- Matthew, on the "Scandinavian", no age given in the index; looking at the original image, the photo is very shady so I even have difficulty to read both first name and surname; age unreadable; but his trade being "laborer" and no other of his name on the boat, that could be him but I am quite unsure!

In 1871: three, aged 27, 20 and 12

In 1869: fifteen: two loners(!), aged 19 and 25;
three 3-persons families (father & mother & child of young age);
and another family about which I found a topic started on Rootschat on 26.03.2005 and left pending; for which reason I have posted my information there!

So, I am puzzled again: if there is no trace of Samuel Meade migrating to Canada around 1870, perhaps he migrated to the USA at some time (though quite young) and from there to Canada?!


Progressing takes time!

[polarbear]

Hi there.

It is always possible that the passenger list did not survive or was illegible for transcribing. Also, if I remember correctly, it is only Quebec City arrivals that are indexed by name for the time frame you are looking at. He may have come in at Montreal, Halifax, or Saint John NB, in which case you would need to go page by page through the records.

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.003-e.html

I see that Samuel and Sarah's son Walter was b. in Montreal? Perhaps his parents were married there, although I can't see a marriage off hand.

PB

[minotauros]

I agree with you concerning the passenger lists.

On the other hand, it is the first time I hear (rather see!) that Walter would be born in Montreal! Except for the 1901 census which says he is born in urban Quebec (province I assume), he is most regularly said born in Ontario.

A reference concerninc Montreal would then be welcome!

[minotauros]

I said I agreed with Polarbear for the passenger lists because the National Archives site appeared ambigous.

But I have just listed the ships for 1870 and there are 82: for all of them, Quebec is inscribed as port of arrival; in addition to Quebec (in combination with Quebec!), Gaspe and St.Johns appear once, and Montreal 7 times. For these nine "ambiguities", i looked at original pages and picked up some names that I then entered into the "search by name" function and they all pointed to the ship and date and port I had taken them from. Conclusion: the names have been indexed for the period concerned for all subsisting lists. That doesn't mean there are no transcription errors...

I am now quite anxious to see your information "a propos" of Montreal.

[polarbear]

Hi again.

From the Drouin Collection (image available on Anc****)

Baptism ...

Walter John son of Samuel Mead and Sarah Fennell his wife was b. 17 Nov 1875 and privately baptized 20 Feb 1876. Received into the Church 26 Mar 1876.

At Montreal St George Church (Anglican)

Parents both signed the register and there were 3 sponsors. Father's occupation not given.

You might find Samuel in the Montreal Directory at this link. Start at 'Serie Principale' and it is English after that ....  http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/lovell/index.html

The 1891 census also indicates Walter was b. Quebec, as well as sister Rhoda? I haven't found a baptism for Rhoda, though.

PB

[minotauros]

Polarbear,


I was so surprised to see your reply on waking up this morning, that immediately started digging more about the Meade & Fennell... and just realize now that I should at least have thanked you for that breakthrough! I do now and will hopefully return with some new material to share, as soon as possible.


M

[minotauros]

Within the hour succeding Polarbear's reply, I found the marriage of Samuel Meade and Sarah Fennel at Montreal (Presbyterian Church of St Mark) in 1875: the groom's parents are those I had guessed from the start, namely Walter Meade & Anne Chapman.

I was not as succesful with their daughter Rhoda: since she was probably born in Montreal, and given that her father still appears in the Lovell's Directory of Montreal for 1878-1879, I have spent the following days looking through all the non catholic church registers of Montreal I had access to, without finding her.

Meanwhile, I was hoping that someone would have had time to check the possible birth record of Samuel at Amesbury, 1st quarter of 1853. It would still be interesting but not any more "necessary".

I suppose tha the following step is to lookup for the parents of Walter Meade and Ann Chapman in the 4th quarter 1850 Devizes records? Internet has suggestions about them, but a record is better proof!

Thank you to all of you who helped to get thus far.



 

[rosie99]

Within the hour succeding Polarbear's reply, I found the marriage of Samuel Meade and Sarah Fennel at Montreal (Presbyterian Church of St Mark) in 1875: the groom's parents are those I had guessed from the start, namely Walter Meade & Anne Chapman.

Meanwhile, I was hoping that someone would have had time to check the possible birth record of Samuel at Amesbury, 1st quarter of 1853. It would still be interesting but not any more "necessary".

I suppose tha the following step is to lookup for the parents of Walter Meade and Ann Chapman in the 4th quarter 1850 Devizes records? Internet has suggestions about them, but a record is better proof!

I am so glad you have found the marriage for Samuel and solved your problem. 

Unfortunately we cannot look at birth certificates without buying them.  As for the marriage it might be a good idea to post a look up on the Wiltshire boards

Wiltshire BMD http://www.wiltshirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php  has the following
 
MEAD Walter
CHAPMAN Ann
Church - West Lavington
Registers At History Centre
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Rosie