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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 07 February 13 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi, Rosie!


I had not seen your reply while entering mine. Most of the 8 or so children of Walter & Ann are said to be born in Tilshead and/or West Lavington... but birth places (in censuses for example) do not always concur with baptismal parishes... That would be true if the Samuel (son of Walter & Ann), aged 8 years in 1861 and born in Tilshead were the same as the Samuel baptized in 1853 at Amesbury, wouldn't it?

Sorry that I cannot provide neither the parents or any brothers or sisters of the Samuel who came to Canada! I know it would have helped...

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 07 February 13 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Right again, Bonnie!
I am also trying to "identify" his wife Sarah L. Fennell, born 18 Oct 1857 in Ontario (where? I don't know) and living in Ohio en 1930 with her son Walter. No trace of her found after that...



You said that that Sarah was living with their son Walter in Ohio in 1930 however the 1920 USA Census for Michigan shows that Rev. Samuel Meade was a widow and he arrived into the USA in 1920
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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 07 February 13 22:26 GMT (UK) »
Woops!


This is a mistake from my part: Sarah Fennell is effectively dead before the 1920 US census; in the 1930 census,  she is said born in Ohio, and also dead. Otherwise, however, she is said born in Ontario... I've been trying to locate either or both or her and Samuel Meade in the Canada and USA for 1911 and 1910 respectively, but not succeeded. In 1920, Samuel is living with his son Walter.

Have you had time to rest a little?


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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 07 February 13 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi ... I am thinking that why Samuel went to USA to be with his son and his family is that his wife had passed away.  I have read that the 1920 census was taken from the 1st January for 30 days so that limits the timespan of when Samuel arrived into the USA from Canada.  Maybe wife Sarah died in 1919? 
I didn't see an answer to question if you have Samuel's death certificate and if you have, I presume that his parents names aren't shown.
Thank heavens I got back to sleep OK as up for a 3 hour drive in about an hour's time
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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #22 on: Friday 08 February 13 15:41 GMT (UK) »
If you think that Samuel Mead was born in Tilshead then his parents were probably Elijah Mead born about 1825 in Tilshead and Thirza Giddings who married in 1849 as I mentioned previously.

You may also wish to consider contacting the Wiltshire and Swindon History Centre, Cocklebury Road, Chippenham, Wiltshire. SN15 3QN.     E-mail  heritageadmin@wiltshire.gov.uk     
Tel - 00441249705500   Fax - 00441249705527.  Or visit their website.   The staff are extremely helpful and knowledgable and I believe will do searches of Parish Records etc

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #23 on: Friday 08 February 13 15:44 GMT (UK) »
I forgot Thirza Giddings was born about 1821 also in Tilshead.

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #24 on: Friday 08 February 13 15:55 GMT (UK) »
Do you have a rough idea as to when Samuel's parents married?   You mentioned Samuel was born in 1853, was he the oldest?    For example freeBMD shows a marriage of Elijah Mead 1849 March quarter to either Ann Laws or Thirza Giddings in Amesbury district which includes the village of Tilshead.   Just a thought.

Dave

I think that the family we are looking at is (1861) Wiltshire
Walter Mead bn Tilshead c1827
Ann c1827 bn West Lavington
Emily c1852 Tlshead
Samuel c1853 Tilshead
Hannah c1855 West Lavington
Isaac c1857 West Lavington
Sarah c1860 West Lavington

By 1871 Ann is a widow and Samuel is nowhere to be found  :)

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #25 on: Friday 08 February 13 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Progressing with the children to see if they went to Canada as well  ::)

The ones I have so far  ;D

Emily married Henry Bailey and moved to Staffordshire, Henry is widowed by 1891 -Emily's mother Ann is staying with him and the children

Isaac is still in England early 1900's married to Sarah and living Staffordshire.

Sarah A married John Topp Dec qtr 1879 Devizes  5a   213. By 1901 she is Sarah A Taylor also living in Staffordshire with her Topp children. She married Arthur Taylor Dec qtr 1899   Walsall    6b   1222

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #26 on: Friday 08 February 13 17:44 GMT (UK) »
Hi! I'm back after some researches on my side...

I see difficulty with Elija Mead & Thirza/Theresa [Giddings] being the parents of Samuel:
 - Samuel's birth date is 05 March 1853 as provided by the 1901 Canada census as well as by his death notice, who are independent sources, given that the census was not accessible before 1995, at which date  Samuel had been dead for 65 years; so the person stating the date on the death notice could not know the date on the census... and, miraculously they are identical!
- the children of that couple that I have found (through Family Search) in the Tilshead registers are: Mary Frances M. (b 25.05.1851), James Giddings M. (b 04.09.1853), Elizabeth Ann M. (b 21.03.1856) and Sarah Jane M. (b 29.04.1859).

So, seems that I will have to stick to my initial guess... to which I will come back in a moment.

Your help is appreciated!