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Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« on: Thursday 07 February 13 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Good morning!

(This is my first posting...)

Looking for baptismal record of Samuel Meade (sometimes Mead in documents) from England!

The 1901 Canada census for Brockville, Ontario, has the following information about him:
birth date: 5 march 1853
birth place: England
date of immigration to Canada: 1870
racial origin: English
religion: Brethren
occupation: carter

Birth date is the same on his death notice.
Birth place is the same in all other documents I have seen, without ever a locality name, except on the

death record of one of his sons where he is said from "Devin England".
Except in that 1901 census, his religion is Baptist (all of his 5 sons were Baptist ministers at one time

or another).

His wife and children were all born in Canada but I have found no record of his marriage thus far; so I

don't know his parents' names.

Family Search mentions only two Samuel Meade born in or around 1853: one that still lives in England after

1870; and one from Tilshead, Wiltshire, mentioned in the census of 1861, but not in 1871. His siblings

appear in the Tilshead or West Lavington registers but not him!

My hypothesis is that "Devin" is an erroneous reading for Devizes, where his parents could have been

married, and that he could have been baptised there... or at Amesbury?

Thank you for your patience at reading me: I wanted you to know exactly what I know and not.



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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 07 February 13 15:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi minotauros

Welcome to rootschat  :)   

Thank you for a detailed explanation, it is a great help.  Do the documents actually state he was born in Wiltshire or could the Devin, England mean Devon.  :-\

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 07 February 13 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Wow! I didn't expect so many people looking at one message in such a short period of time. Thanks a lot!

No document mentions Wiltshire, it is just a deduction from the fact that a lookup on Family Search for Meades in Devon didn't bring any result.


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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome ... tried posting a reply before but not sure it got through.
Found a marriage, which may be one of Samuel's sons?? in Ontario, Canada on 30 December 1915
Walter Johne Meade, aged 30, to Lulu Lucinda Nash.  Walter's father, Samuel Meade, a Clergyman.  Mother's maiden name Sarah Fennel or Funnel ... hard to make out.


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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:20 GMT (UK) »
You're right, Bonnie!

In fact, Walter is the elder known son (the other children being Rhoda, Henry Edward, William, Harold Cecil and Adelbert Lawrence). From the 1901 Canadian census, he is born 17 Nov 1875.

As you can see, the names of the children evoke names found among the siblings and parentage of the Samuel Meade from Tilshead (Wilt), hence my "hypothesis".

As far as the descendants of Samuel & Sarah Meade are concerned, filiations are ok for me. It is Samuel's origins that I am searching.

Many thanks!




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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi ... if I have the right Meade's it seems they crossed the border into America and the 1920 census of Detroit, Michigan shows Walter 44, wife Lula 39, their children Glenn 13 and Margery 11 and father Rev. Samuel Meade aged 66, a widow.   
The 1930 Census shows Walter J Meade, 54 wife Lula 49 and son Glenn aged 23 now living in Alachua, Florida.

Do you know when Samuel died?

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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Right again, Bonnie!


He crossed the border in 1907 from Sarnia (Ont) to Detroit (Mich)... and eventually died on 23 May 1930 at Daytona Beach (Florida). All of his family seems to have moved quite a lot around Canada and the USA...

I am also trying to "identify" his wife Sarah L. Fennell, born 18 Oct 1857 in Ontario (where? I don't know) and living in Ohio en 1930 with her son Walter. No trace of her found after that...

About the Amesbury possible "gateway", I can't find out where I got it, so I have no present real basis for it!

Glad to hear from you!


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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I see on FreeBDM that a Samuel Mead (not Meade) birth registered Q1/1853 5a/176 at Amesbury, Wiltshire.??
I presume you have his death certificate and there are no parents name shown.
Sorry need to go back to bed, its 3.45am here.
Good luck with your search. 
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Re: Samuel MEADE from Devizes or nearby
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 07 February 13 16:55 GMT (UK) »
Well I think your Tilshead one looks extremely promising.  I certainly can't see him in 1871 or after.
 It looks as though his father died in 1868.

Have you traced through on the sisters of this Samuel.

Rosie
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