Thomas Buckley... You have me baffled

[sezzle]

updated:

i know who the children of Thomas jnr are, but i dont know where he was in 1891 or 1901
i also need to find Thomas Snr who passed before 1921
thats where im at now (before i delve into Bridgets side)

Thomas Buckley (jnr) b1881 married Bridget Wyse (wise) in 1903 in Ireland, moved back to Manchester in 1906ish with Bridget and children. In 1911 he was a foundry labourer.
Later married Elizabeth Ridings/Harding in 1921
His occupation was labourer, age 41
His father, also Thomas Buckley (snr)is listed as dead in 1921, his occupation was lithographic printer.

Im now trying to locate where Thomas Buckley Jnr was pre 1900 and also more info on his dad

Thanks for the help so far guys its clearing up my confusion so much!

[heywood]

Hello,

do you not have the marriage details from the  Bridget Wyse marriage? That may help with his occupation and perhaps verify his father's name.

regards
heywood

[heatherjulie]

Hi
John Thomas Buckley married in Oct-nov-dec 1927 Portsmouth spouse called Sturmey

There is a birth record for John Thomas Buckley Ireland Civil registration Births Index.

Was Thomas's  second wife called Mary Ann Ridings? If so, they married in 1917 at Ashton under Lyne, Christ Church. www.cheshirebmd.org.uk

Heather

[heywood]

There is a possibility for Bridget in 1901 - Limerick and a few T B entries for Limerick - born England and within the age range. http://www.nationalarchives.ie/

[heatherjulie]

Looking on familysearch, there is a Bridget Wise born Jan-mar 1885 Limerick which fits with the  census.

[heatherjulie]

There is a death for
Bridget Buckley aged 36 born about 1884 in 1920 Chorlton, Manchester
Vol 8c page 706

so this might make the 1921 marriage correct
Heather

[heywood]

Bridget died and he remarried, now going off the bmd the year was 1917 but i went to view the record and it was 1921 confusing much?

There is a tree - yours I think which has the 2 marriages:

Free BMD shows the 1917 marriage to Mary A

The tree then has the 1921 marriage to Elizabeth Ridings in Miles Platting but I can't see this on Free BMD.

Perhaps both should not have married in 1917 but on the death of one or other spouse they were free to marry and had a church wedding?  No- I see they married at Christ Church- sorry.

Have you seen the certificate re 1921 did you say?

Oh dear- just seen the other marriage on Lancashire BMD  Elizabeth Harding/ Ridings.

Is this the same person as Mary Ann?

[KGarrad]

1881 census:
Reference RG11, Piece 3997, Folio 35, Page 21
52 Richmond Street, Manchester

Buckley, Thomas  Head  M  32  Tile Cutter
Buckley, Alice  Wife  F  30
Buckley, Ralph  Son  M  11  Scholar
Buckley, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  9  Scholar
Buckley, Mary A  Daughter  F  6 
Buckley, Thomas  Son  M  4 
Buckley, Ellen  Daughter  F  2                  All born Manchester

[heatherjulie]

There are these possible marriages to look at
In 1871
Thomas M Buckley and Alice Lamb at Manchester Cathedral
Thomas Buckley and Alice Newall at Manchester St John