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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #18 on: Friday 01 February 13 17:25 GMT (UK) »
I wonder why the " f " is not joined to the last word, the other words are totally joined up, also in the ending  of the first word the letter looks very similar to the p in employer? employd?
Is he a ***per of *****.      thats not much help is it ;D ;D ;D ;D


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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #19 on: Friday 01 February 13 19:08 GMT (UK) »
  thats not much help is it ;D ;D ;D ;D


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No - I'm wondering if part of this was in  Welsh  8)
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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #20 on: Friday 01 February 13 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Ah well you can't win them all  :( :( :(
seems they made gloves in denbigh, is it a technical term to do with treating animal skins to make them thin and flexible

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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 02 February 13 11:20 GMT (UK) »
I apologise for the lack of responses to all the replies, I have been ill for a few days. Robert was indeed noted as born Bontuchel on most census and Jane always Nantglyn. This occupation on the 1901 census was totally different. I have had no success in locating a gravestone for the pair, I think they are buried in Denbigh, but it's just the matter of proving that Robert Roberts who died due to an accident at work is my ancestor. I think a trip to the archives to read the newspapers again will be on the cards.
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Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
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Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #22 on: Saturday 02 February 13 22:13 GMT (UK) »
I want to look at the first word.

'Temper' has been suggested, but this enumerator does not dot his 'i's, so it could be 'Timper'.

Now look at the many entries, including one on the same page, where the occupation appears to be 'Arg Lapour'. In the last two or three pages of the e.d. he suddenly starts writing it 'Arg Labour'.

Also note on page 5 (image 3 at Ancestry) an instance of a child who is a 'School Poy'.

I think this enumerator is pronouncing (or hearing in his head) some 'b's as 'p's.

So I think the first word could be 'timber'.

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(or should that be Huw)
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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #23 on: Saturday 02 February 13 23:37 GMT (UK) »
Could it be Timber Feller?

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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 03 February 13 00:00 GMT (UK) »
OOOh how fascinating, and I would never think to look so deeply into the way the words are written on the census. I will have to check  it out again.
Thank you Hugh
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Morris - Gwytherin/Llangernyw/Pandy Tudur
Blore - Efenechtyd/Clocaenog
Bloor - Cwm/Newmarket Wales
Price - Llangwm, Poulton cum Seacomb/Bebington
Roberts - Llanelidan - 'Pantrwth' Eyarth, Liverpool, Sheffield, Llanrwst
Roberts - Brookhouse Denbigh, Bontuchel
Williams - Abergele
Hughes - Llanfairtalhaiarn
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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 03 February 13 08:29 GMT (UK) »
I want to look at the first word.

'Temper' has been suggested, but this enumerator does not dot his 'i's, so it could be 'Timper'.

Now look at the many entries, including one on the same page, where the occupation appears to be 'Arg Lapour'. In the last two or three pages of the e.d. he suddenly starts writing it 'Arg Labour'.

Also note on page 5 (image 3 at Ancestry) an instance of a child who is a 'School Poy'.

I think this enumerator is pronouncing (or hearing in his head) some 'b's as 'p's.

So I think the first word could be 'timber'.

Hugh
(or should that be Huw)
Could it be Timber Feller?

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By jove I think you've got it  ;D and looking again I think that says 'employed' not employer.

I wonder if the chap was mildly dislexic, they often muddle b's and p's and 6's and 9's ?
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Re: unrecognisable occupation on 1901 census
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 03 February 13 14:41 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to prove that he died due to an accident that happened in 1904. I found a burial record for him in Denbigh in 1904 and next to the entry it says Coroner's order

It may be worth you contacting Ruthin Archives, they have an index to Coroners Inquests, but not all records have been kept. As it`s a common name , it would help if you had a date etc.
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