Whiting family

[Ellesse]

I'm still trying to find information about John Ernest Whiting born about 1880.  He was a travelling showman in the Sheffield area until his death in 1946.  The 1911 census gives him as being born in Deptford, London, but I cannot find his birth registered in that area.  Does anyone else have any other information about him - he's my grandfather on my dad's side, but unfortunately my dad and most/all of his brothers and sisters are now dead, so they cannot help.  I did start this search on this site a couple of years ago but have still not got any further. 

[CaroleW]

The 1911 census gives him as being born in Deptford, London, but I cannot find his birth registered in that area.

Where was he living in 1911 as there are 2 John Whitings with a birthplace of Deptford - one b 1878 living in Surrey and the other b 1882 living in Deptford

Was he married by 1911?  If so - do you have a copy of his marriage cert showing his fathers name

[CaroleW]

Additional info from your post on another website back in 2010 

I'm trying to find out information about my husbands great grandfather.
 
I have his marriage certificate (19 Mar 1908, Darnall Parish Church, Sheffield, Yorkshire) and I have him on the 1911 census living in Sheffield, but apart from that I have nothing. He doesn't seem to exist before he got married. Can't even find a birth record that fits him.
 
His name was John Ernest Whiting born c1880. His marriage certificate gives his father as John, an engineer, and his address as Fair Ground, Main Road, Darnall (Sheffield). They were travellers, which I think is part of the problem! On his son's birth certificate the father is given as John E Whiting and their address then was Maltby Road, Bramley (in 1910) He died 17/3/1946 in Sheffield aged 66.
 
I did find them on the 1911 census eventually (transcribed as Whitney!) It gives
John Ernest Whiting, 31, Roundabout Proprieter, born Deptford, London S. E.
 Mary Ellen Whiting, 28, born Darnall, Sheffield
 Eliza Ann Whiting, 2, born Stairfoot, Barnsley
 John Ernest Whiting, 8 months, born Bramley, Rotherham.
 They were living in a caravan on what looks like Bamforth Street, Penistone Road, Sheffield, which I know is the area they lived in.
 
I did find the baptism of a John Whiting in the Deptford area, with a father John, but on the 1911 census he is still living with his parents in Deptford.
 
I have searched on every census, using every combination that I can think of, but nothing. People on other websites have given me links to a travellers site run by Sheffield University and the Whiting family is mentioned on there, but still no mention of John Ernest.