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finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd COMPLETED
« on: Friday 25 January 13 20:11 GMT (UK) »
Could someone please advise me  as to what website other than freebmduk , ancestry.com,  FindMyPast and genealogistuk  has indexed the GRO certificates online
or
alternatively an addie in UK one writes to request a document that knowlingly exists
but is not indexed online..?

Not sure how to wordphrase this question    .....    ( and I cannot put name up for someone to search as new vague information has come to me about yet another one of my kin who has recently passed)

thanks for assistance

marty

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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd that is not listed on freebmduk
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 January 13 20:16 GMT (UK) »
 
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has indexed the GRO certificates online

Do you mean the GRO BMD index which details Quarter, District, Volume and Page number?

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alternatively an addie in UK one writes to request a document that knowlingly exists

That would depend on the document?  Different departments for different documents.

If you are referring to a B/M/D cert - the online availability is only to 2006.   

Without mentioning the names of any living person - perhaps you could try and better explain exactly what it is you are looking for and why you think it should exist
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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd that is not listed on freebmduk
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 January 13 22:27 GMT (UK) »
If you cannot find an entry in the General Register Offcies index (and for completeness you should not rely on an online transcription but refer to the original fiche located at 7 archives around the country,) for an event you think would have been recorded, you must make an application to the register office where the event should have been recorded.

However, I do know that a small number of births that should have been registered even after 1875 were not recorded and not necessarily where the birth was illegitimate.

Also do not limit your searches to the area where you think the event took place. Deaths often occur 'away' from the home registration district.
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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd that is not listed on freebmduk
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 January 13 22:37 GMT (UK) »
Also you should remember that sometimes the name people were known as in life isn't the same name they were registered with.

I have even got a relative listed as 'unnamed' SURNAME in the GRO record.

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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd that is not listed on freebmduk
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 January 13 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Marty - do you mean that you've found an "event" on UKBMD that isn't on the GRO index? The online GRO indices stop at 2006, but some of the local BMD sites (searchable together via UKBMD) have later data - eg CheshireBMD has some deaths in 2012 indexed.

If that's the case you can order the certificate from the local register office by following the links back from UKBMD or the relevant local BMD site - it usually ends up with a form for postal purchases, but a few Register Offices do have online ordering. Your profile doesn't give any location, but I do understand if you're outside the UK the postal ordering can be difficult.

Sorry if I've misunderstood.

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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd that is not listed on freebmduk
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 January 13 14:38 GMT (UK) »
Think we are all confused as to your request! ;D

Did the event take place in England or Wales?
If it's in Scotland, you need to go to ScotlandsPeople.

FreeBMD covers only England and Wales, and does not offer complete coverage.
E.G. deaths are fairly complete until 1964, but patchy thereafter.
Do remember that the site is run by volunteers, and always needs new transcribers!

Ancestry tends to rely on the data from FreeBMD.

FindMyPast goes as far as 2006.


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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd that is not listed on freebmduk
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 January 13 14:40 GMT (UK) »
with thanks to your responses  .....     i was aware of local bmds in certain counties  ,  however i couldnt find ones for hampshire  dorset and a raft of other counties....
as to why i needed extra comment  on sources  was because i was on a hunt earlier for something particular...
one the researchers on rootschat came to my aid and found the certificate reference for me and I am duly ordering it.....      I dare not ask where it was found , as i probably didnt have my glasses on \oo/ or the rain had fogged them.... anyway its all good...
marty
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Re: finding a current certificate reference on ukbmd COMPLETED
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 January 13 11:37 GMT (UK) »
For a  full list of counties that have local BMD's online - goto UKBMD and click on LocalBMD - all the ones that use the UKBMD software are at the top - but scroll down the list as below them are are many other areas/ counties that have also got their Local BMD's online

Hope this helps
Shezzy