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Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« on: Thursday 24 January 13 14:24 GMT (UK) »
My 4th cousin 3 times removed, Michael Waddell married Jane Morrison Matthew in Glasgow in 1845, and had three children, including Robina Steele Waddell, born (according to the 1851 census) about 1849/50. Michael died before 31 December 1854, and Jane married, in 1855, Thomas Buxton, a surgeon from Tamworth.

They had five of a family. Thomas died in 1880, and Jane in 1912, in Tamworth. I have all the information I need on the Buxtons, who are not related to me, and on Michael's elder daughter Margaret. In particular I have birth references, marriage references and death references, and all relevant census records, for all except Robina.

In particular Robina S Waddell, said to be aged 46, and unmarried, was living with her half-brother Thomas Buxton and his wife and family in Tamworth in the 1901 census.

What I would like to know is whether Robina S Waddell, who died in Tamworth 1936/Q4/6b/439, allegedly aged 57, is in fact the daughter of Michael Waddell and Jane Morrison Matthews, who would actually have been aged about 87. If not, who is this Robina S Waddell, and what happened to her elder namesake?

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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 January 13 14:33 GMT (UK) »
The death entry you have found for Tamworth..... gives her birth year as 1870 on Ancestry...and the probate for her states she is a Spinster.
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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 24 January 13 14:47 GMT (UK) »
My thought would be that the Robina Waddell who died in 1936, in Tamworth, is your Robina, and that somewhere the age has been misread - 57 for 87. 

Robina is 58 in 1911 and still living with Thomas, and mother Jane.

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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 24 January 13 14:50 GMT (UK) »
I think it's the same person too.. maybe the Registrar to made the same mistake....an incomplete 8 can be mistaken for a 5
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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 24 January 13 14:52 GMT (UK) »
The detail of the corresponding probate entry is as follows:

WADDELL Robina Steel of Fazeley near Tamworth Staffordshire spinster died 21 December 1936. Probate London 1 February to Samuel Henry Buxton retired farmer and George Robert Jennings solicitor.

Effects £2550 9s 10d. Resworn £2680 5s 6d.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 24 January 13 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, all, for information. Everything points to her being the one I'm interested in except the A*****y date of birth. Since A******y mirrors the death indexes as transcribed on FreeBMD, I presume that they have 'calculated' her supposed DoB from her supposed age at death, so if her age is wrong on FreeBMD her DoB is automatically going to be wrong on A******y. 

Does anyone know where the Buxton family were buried? Is there a churchyard/cemetery at Fazeley?
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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 24 January 13 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Nearest to Fazeley is possibly Wilnecote Cemetery (Old and New).  The Cemeteries Department may be able to help (Tamworth Borough Council), but they may charge.

I know that Tamworth Library have the indexes for the Cemetery burials and I can go and look, if you would like me to.  And there's a church in Fazeley as well - St Paul - GENUKI says that only the burial registers up to 1907 have been deposited with the Record Office, which may or may not mean that the current burial registers are still with the church.

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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 24 January 13 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, I would appreciate that very much indeed, but please don't put yourself out; there is no rush.
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Re: Robina Steele Waddell, Tamworth
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 January 13 15:02 GMT (UK) »
I have a list of the MIs for St Paul's Fazeley but not to hand at the moment, will check for BUXTON and WADDELL for you when I can.

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