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McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« on: Tuesday 22 January 13 23:58 GMT (UK) »
I'm looking for Alexander McPhee and his wife Mary McDougall who left Barra some time in the mid 1800's for Cape Breton. They settled in Big Pond. I'm looking for births, marriages and deaths. They may also have had with them a daughter Mary and possibly a son Michael.


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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 14:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am a Londoner who lives on the Isle of Lewis and there is a wonderful centre on the Isle of Harris that collects all the parish information, immigration details, croft histories etc. A man called Bill Lawson is the genealogist who co-ordinates all the details. It maybe worth contacting him or looking for the crofting histories of Barra - I found details of all my partners family through these books in Harris and where all the family settled around the world. The web address is below.


http://www.seallam.com/intro.htm

Debs

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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 January 13 19:55 GMT (UK) »
The 1841 census for Barra has Alexr McPhie 30, fisherman, & wife Mary 25 (adults ages were rounded down in the 1841 census to the nearest 5), plus children John 4, Alick 2, & Peggy 2 months.
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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 30 January 13 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Debs and Elwyn for your information in answer to my query about McPhees of Barra. Really appreciate it!!!

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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 April 13 13:00 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for Alexander McPhee and his wife Mary McDougall who left Barra some time in the mid 1800's for Cape Breton. They settled in Big Pond. I'm looking for births, marriages and deaths. They may also have had with them a daughter Mary and possibly a son Michael.

Hi Cod,

I have had a rummage around what I have on Barra folks but couldn't find a marriage for your Alex McPhee & Mary MacDougall.

Can you tell me if they were Protestant or Catholic as I have a fair bit for Craigston (Cath) but very little for Church of Scot (Pro).

Reason being, I did find Catholic baptisms for a couple, Alex MacPhee & Mary but her surname was Campbell. All in 6 births 1836 - 1851. Names: John, Peggy, Catherine, Archibald, Mary & Donald. There may have been other's which were not recorded/missed on the transcriptions/not legible etc. which can't be discounted i.e. a possible Alex & Michael.

As it happens, calculating roughly when that union would have occurred, (probably Craigston), that page is missing!

The ages of John & Peggy fit the ages of the family Elwyn found in 1841.

Those children were born in Bruernish, Barra & that 1841 census was Bruernish too! There was also a Neil MacPhie, aged 2yrs on the census.

I couldn't find another Alex MacPhee with a wife Mary in 1841 on Barra.

I found a birth for an Alex MacPhee in 1808 to Archibald Macphie & Margaret MacNeil & there was a Mary MacNeil in the household 1841.

There are a few factors which point to a possible 2nd marriage regarding Mary MacDougall and worth checking I think?

If it turns out to be the case I can give you the baptism dates.

Regards,

Anne Marie.
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 13 April 13 19:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Cod,

I got your PM. Now that you have given me ages to work with, it is so much better.

1841 - Pabbay Island, Barra

John MacPhie 35 Crofter
Mearon   "     30 (Merron/Marion) but she was married as Mary
Mary      "      10
Eliza      "        8
Alexander "     6
Hector   "        3
Flora     "       18 F. S. (Too old to be their dau but good chance she's related)

I don't have 1851 for Barra

Births to follow.

Regards,

Anne Marie.
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 13 April 13 19:55 BST (UK) »
This is the same family as listed above in 1841. It looks as if Mary was Mary Nicholson born Barra.
The names are different to what you originally posted  ???  This particular John McPhee and Mary did immigrated to Canada.  Are these the correct people. ?


ED 4 -  Page: 1 -  Line: 11 -  Roll  CSSCT1851_25 -  Year - 1851.

Glen Inverness.

John Mcphee 45 Barra. Fisherman.
Mary Mcphee 40 Barra. Fisherman's Wife,
Marion Mcphee 17 Barra. General Servant.
Elisabeth Mcphee 14 Barra.  General servant.
Alexander Mcphee 12 Barra. Errand Boy.
Hector Mcphee 10 Barra. Errand Boy.
Ann Mcphee 9 Barra. Errand Daughter.
George Mcphee 7 Barra. Errand Son.
Ann Mcphee 5 Barra. Errand Daughter.
Roderick Mcphee 2 Barra. Errand Son.

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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 13 April 13 21:00 BST (UK) »
Children b to John MacPhee & Mary Nicolson (pgs for when the would hav wed are missing)

Name          Born                 Place          Bapt (Craigston)       

John            1830             Lochdoune    19 Jul 1830
Marion         1833             Bahierva       30 Mar 1833
Elizabeth     1835              Bahierva       12 Jan 1835
Alexander 18 Feb 1837      (Blank)         02 Mar 1837
Ann          05 Feb 1841      Pabbay         06 Feb 1841 (not on 1841 at home so if we can find her     abode then, it should be a clue to other relatives)
George     25 May 1843      Pabbay         25 May 1843
Ann         19 Jun 1844       Pabbay          29 Jul 1844

Didn't find the remaining kids on Sandra's 1851 but a lot missing, not logged, torn pages etc.

Regards,

Anne Marie.
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: McPhee family from Barra, Outer Hebrides, Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 14 April 13 21:18 BST (UK) »
In 1841 it looks as if Anne MacPhee is 2 crofts up from John & Mary at another MacPhie household.

Hector MacPhie 30 Sailor
Catherine " 30 (maiden name MacNeil, taken from kids baptism records))
John " 13
Peggy " 11
Rory " 8
Mary " 6
Anne MacNeil 18 F.S.
Anne MacPhie 1m

Nearest fit (on all of Barra) apart from this Anne - 1m was 3 yrs old so pretty confident that's her but not too sure on the relationship.

John & Hector have both named their eldest son's John so may be brothers and father's name John?

I also found this entry which will be of interest to you (your MacPhee's)http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.scotland.westernisles/56/mb.ashx

Regards,

Anne Marie.
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"