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Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« on: Saturday 19 January 13 06:15 GMT (UK) »
I am from the States and could use some help if possible before ordering the wrong records. 

I am not sure but I believe this Catherine Maud Clarke (b.in Lambeth Jul 1870) is my great Aunt, I am trying to find her record as well as her sister my other great Aunt,  Alice Matilda Clarke (b. in Mile End Town 1868).

this is what I know thus far.

Catherine Maud Clarke

Date of Registration:
Jul-Aug-Sep 1870
Lambeth
Volume:1d
Page:461

Alice Matilda Clarke

Date of Registration:
Jan-Feb-Mar 1868
Mile End Old Town
Volume:1c
Page:628

I finally realize that LONDON has Many districts, sub districts, sub sub GRO, etc.  I did manage  years ago to get my great grandmother's birth record, she was born in "Mile End Old Town Eastern" in "County of Middlesex"    I am assuming her sister Alice record is same office since she was born a few years later and sister Catherine Maud was in "Lambeth" an area near by?

Anyone able to see these records to make sure they are my family?  I don't necessarily need an "official copy" but would love to know exact date of births and WHERE would they have possibly been baptised, and confirm parents? Also, Annie Beatrice Clarke was their eldest sister.

Thanks in advance for any help, I truly appreciate the kindness of fellow researchers around!

Cheers,
Brian

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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 January 13 08:12 GMT (UK) »
It is not possible to view birth certificates without buying them!
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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 January 13 08:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi,,,the records you have found are taken from the free BMD index {births.marriages,deaths}...the details recorded {registration district..volume..page number  etc} are to enable you to order the correct birth certificate from the GRO {general register office}....therefore no-one will be able to tell you the information contained on those birth certificates,unless they actually order the certificate using the details from the BMD index. ;)
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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 19 January 13 08:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian
Do you know who the parents were for the two girls?
We could help you find them in 1871 census.
I've had no luck so far.
If you order a cert from GRO you can stipulate the parents names, if incorrect, they won't charge you.
Just a thought.


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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 19 January 13 09:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

The nearest I could find for a census was this.

1871 living at L? Villas, Lambeth.

Fred Clarke  Head 29, bricklayer born Holbrook
Annie Clarke wife 28 born Hull
Annie Clarke 5 dau born Bow
Alice Clarke 3 dau born Bow
Maude Clarke 8 dau born Brixton.

RG10/691/22/35

Bow is an area very close to Mile End.

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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 January 13 15:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian
Do you know who the parents were for the two girls?
We could help you find them in 1871 census.
I've had no luck so far.
If you order a cert from GRO you can stipulate the parents names, if incorrect, they won't charge you.
Just a thought.


TinaM

The reference checking service was suspended 3 years ago.

If you want to order a cert from the GRO and quote the reg district, volume and page number you CAN'T stipulate the parents names.

To do this you must order without the references, doing so will take you to another screen where you have to enter a load of extra details.

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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 19 January 13 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Brian

Referring to your post here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,632026.0.html

It was mentioned that Frederick & Amelia married in 1865. Have you located a mariage certificate for them. I can't find an entry in the marriage index, and the banns register is available online but  they weren't called the required 3 times.

I note that on the 1871 census Maude is 8 which puts her birth circa 1863, before they married?

Also, although civil registration started in 1837, it wasn't compulsory for parents to register births until 1874 (the onus was on the registrars to go around their districts and collect birth entries) so there may not be certificate entries to find.

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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 19 January 13 23:54 GMT (UK) »
THANK YOU ALL DEEEPLY for you HELP...

You are all correct and that is the 1871 Census then the moved to America.  And Thanks for the bit about asking if their Parents show as Fred* Clark(e) and Amelia Ann "Annie" Sherwood first before ordering their records, it adds up when wrong documents are ordered and mailed this far...

I appreciate your help, I have not been sure for longest time if these are certainly my great aunts and as I said knowing for certain (by confirming the parents) and getting exact date of birth is most important, obviously.

cheers,
brian


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Re: Birth Records "look up" London area, Lambeth, Mile End Old Town? Help? :)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 January 13 00:10 GMT (UK) »
Dawn,

I just have a Bann's entrance for Fred Clark(e) and Amelia Ann (Annie) Sherwood,  I don't have marriage document in hand.  If thats what you were asking.  My other post in Sculcoates were referring to Amelia Ann (Annie) Sherwood's parents as she gave her place of birth as Hull, Yorkshire.

I got this online, but don't have Fred and Annie's actual marriage certificate, IF there is even one to have?  hmm.   Thanks again everyone, I still have lots to learn.  :)  cheers, b.

Name:
Frederick Clark
Age:23
Spouse Name:
Amelia Ann Sherwood
Age:22
Banns
16 Jul 1865
Parish:Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints

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