Murphy and Reeves Rathpeacon

[Sinann]

It appears Edmond left with paying the telephone bill. It probably arrived after he left.

Cork Examiner March 1925
Riverstown District Court
Minister for Posts and Telegraphs is applying to the court to recover £11 17s 1d from Edmond
for the quarter ending September 1924


The next mention of the Hall is in 1934 a Daniel Murphy, who is clearly involved in the cattle trade.

[Sinann]

Number 214 (in 1924)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK3-Q34C-5?cat=185720&i=665
I expected this to be the sale of the Hall but I’m not sure what it is but money is owed, it says Edward Scanlon but the address is Rathpeacon Hall so not sure about it.

And 261 (in1925) again Edward.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSKS-BWYZ?cat=185720&i=545

104 (1920) this one is Edmond
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK3-SKJS?cat=185720&i=331

[gerryscanlon]

Thank you Sinann! I am amazed at how helpful you are. I could not read the text but my grandfather, Edmond, certainly had many problems in the early 1920's as the whole family moved from what was an idyllic youth to very hard times in Wales. He used to attend my rugby matches when I was a lad and often told me that he played for he South of Ireland in their famous win over the All Blacks believed to be in 1904. However, I have no idea if that is true as it's so long ago and he was clearly something of a scallywag! However, thanks for your very kind and informative help! 

[Sinann]

The writing is difficult and the legalese doesn’t help.

The 1920 one (as far as I can work out) is an indenture of mortgage dated 20 Sept 1920 between Edmond Scanlon Rathpeacon Hall and Provincial Bank of Ireland Ltd.
There are a few names and dates regarding the property; if I can make sense of them.
A lease from May 1851 between Ann Guy and Richard Thomas
A lease from Sept 1870 or 1810 between Robert Thomas and Harry Webb Thomas and Charlotte Thomas.
A lease March 1908 between John Tracey and John Reidy .

It looks like Edmond took over this mortgage or the lease of the property that was mortgaged.
There are a few more names but I’m lost as to what is going on, the name to note is the surname Thomas.

The 1924 one is an affidavit in regards to a judgment from the High Court of Saorstat Eireann (Irish Free State).
William Thomas of Tyrhavan (sp?) Farm Maesycwmmer  Wales had a judgment against Edward Scanlon Rathpeacon Hall Cattle Dealer for £167 15s 3d but I can’t see a reason why but given he had the surname Thomas could it have something to do with the mortgage on the Hall?

The 1925 one is also an affidavit about a judgement from the High Court
F H Thompson and Son Ltd (looking in the newspapers appears to be a catering company/restaurant) got a judgement against Edward Scanlon Rahtpeacon Hall  Cattle Dealer for £51 12s 6d but again I can’t see why he owes them money.

In both affidavits it’s claimed that at the time of swearing Edward Scanlon had ‘benefit’ from Rathpeacon Hall and lands. In other words he had assets/income from Rathpeacon Hall.

Add the telephone bill to this lot and the new buildings at Rathpeacon Hall and it looks like Edmond simply over reached financially.

Ireland first played the All Blacks in 1905 and didn’t even score. 15 to 0 to the All Blacks. There is no Scanlon named on the team on the IRFU website. Think he was pulling your leg.
https://www.irishrugby.ie/2005/11/10/previous-meetings-ireland-v-new-zealand-1905-1978/

[Welly07]

Hello, reading this with great interest as Catherine and Thomas are in my family tree.
Ellen's brother Thomas Murphy he was one of the older siblings wheres Ellen one of the oldest