Hi balldw- yes, sorry, I should have mentioned that gaffy found the 1861 marriage. I meant that I managed to find the marriage cert online and look at it. Strangely, it only gave the surnames, not first names of the fathers of both Catherine and Timothy. However, when I searched for a birth for Catherine, using the age on her death cert of 1880, I found that there was a Catherine Reeves born in the parish of Blarney (Blarney is the parish for all the certs) in 1842 and the ages match. Her father was Thomas Reeves and mother was Catherine Allen. The wedding cert of Thomas and Catherine (1841) do not give fathers' first names, only surnames of Reeves and Allen, and the parish is still Blarney.