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Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« on: Thursday 17 January 13 18:29 GMT (UK) »
On the 17th Feb 1743 our Lucy Euseb (widow) of St Dunstans married at the Fleet Westminster Peter Lawlanier of Christchurch Spitalfields, he was a weaver and bachelor.

Has anyone any knowledge of Peter Lawlanier or if this  surname is wrongly transcribed ?

What I an really trying to say is have you got a Lawlanier in your ancestral cupboard.

Once again - Help Please

JOHN1935

Goodsir.  Ellington. Tillman.  Wilson. AngAs. Capstaff (Northumberland & Durham)
Macaire. Eusebe. Boitel. Beaulieu. Gordon. Tillman. Fear. Wood.
 ( London/ Middlesex & Devon )

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 January 13 18:52 GMT (UK) »
None in my cupboard :)

...but Laulanier seems to exist as a French surname. Perhaps he was a Huguenot?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 January 13 19:22 GMT (UK) »
None in my cupboard :)

...but Laulanier seems to exist as a French surname. Perhaps he was a Huguenot?

 Nor mine ,   but it does   sound  very french  ,  and Spitalfields was an area where there  were many weavers and Huguenots lived

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 January 13 10:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi John

Lawlanier was my reading of it, but I'm far from sure that is correct:



It does seem to begin with Law... that's about as confident as I am.

Richard
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London


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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 January 13 10:51 GMT (UK) »
think it may end ....nan.  The r in Peter is is quite different and since they are both at the end of a word, I'd expect more similarity

Lawlainan? 

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #5 on: Friday 18 January 13 10:57 GMT (UK) »
I ws going to suggest that mc8. I also think it may end in ...man. :)

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 January 13 11:03 GMT (UK) »
Lawlaman? Perhaps an anglicisation of Lallemand?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 January 13 12:40 GMT (UK) »
Checked through the Tesmoignages of the Threadneedle Street Church, which gives a rough indication which surnames were in use amongst the Huguenots of London, no trace of Lallemand or Lawlanier/Laulanier.

Checking for all surnames beginning with L and ending in 'man' produced the following:

Lackman
Laleman
Laman/Lamand/Lamande
Layman

Could possibly be a variant spelling of one of these?
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: Peter Lawlanier - I think!!
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 January 13 13:00 GMT (UK) »
L'allemand (Varients given as Lalleman,Lallemant) does appear in the records of the French Hospital and the family in that instance comes from the St Quentin region of France, which I believe was also the case for the Eusebe's. Fair chance then avm228 is correct, and this might be the surname, 'Lawlaman' just how the English clerk has recorded it at the Fleet.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London