Lanarkshire Miners from Lithuania 1880-1900

[W.Smith]

The marriage is on SP as

1901 MARCINKIAWICZ MOTEYUS and RUTKAUCKUTIE BRIGITA at BELLSHILL /LANARK

Could this be the family on the 1911 census index?

1911 MERKEVICZE MOTEUSIA Male aged 50 at BELLSHILL /LANARK

This 1911 record is unlikely to be the man from the 1901 marriage as he was aged 20 in 1901 !

Despite some expert use of wildcards, I can't immediately find a better 1911 census record ...............

Be aware that such men, born in Lithuania, were Russian nationals, who were forced to return to Russia and serve in the Russian Army in WWI.

Their wives and kids in Scotland were left with no support from the UK authorities, and many of them were "shipped back" to Russia <sad g>

kirkmichael
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Hi Kirkmichael,

Thanks, you are right, but the marriage cert. looks good.

I will try and get a look at this and follow up.

Thanks for you input.

Bill

[sancti]

It is possible the age has been transcribed wrongly in the census index, the 50 could be 30

The only way to confirm is to view the image

[W.Smith]

Hi Sancti,

Thanks, when I work out how to check the SP, I'll let you know.

Regards,

Bill

It is possible the age has been transcribed wrongly in the census index, the 50 could be 30

The only way to confirm is to view the image

[kirkmichael]

Hi Bill

I don't like leaving things hanging.

After finding two births between 1901 and 1911, and the corresponding deaths in Scotland, I had another go.

The family is there in 1911 under MARCISKIAWICHS  !   This was truly a nightmare for the enumerator.

There are 4 kids, including the two that I had previously found.  Watch out for names changing, e.g. it looks like the first born, Joseph, was shown in 1911 as Yurzas. 

Only three of the kids were born in Scotland, - the other was born in 'America', presumably the USA.

Watch out also for variations in Jurzas senior's wife given name; the Guid Lord only kens what her surname was, see the various birth entries.  Also, I guess, the registrars' nightmare!

Not too much doubt that it is the right family, especially given that the marriage is shown as being 10 years old.  At first I thought that there might have been a remarriage, but the 10 year figure knocks that on the head.

Jurzas is shown as born in ''Lietwa', - that might be Lietiva, - this is almost certainly Lietuva, which is the Lithuanian for Lithuania.

He's also shown as having Russian nationality.

wkr

Kirkmichael

[kirkmichael]

The marriage is on SP as

1901 MARCINKIAWICZ MOTEYUS and RUTKAUCKUTIE BRIGITA at BELLSHILL /LANARK

Could this be the family on the 1911 census index?

1911 MERKEVICZE MOTEUSIA Male aged 50 at BELLSHILL /LANARK

As can now be proven from various other records, this 1911 census record shows the father of Jurzas/Yurzas/Youzas MERCINKIAWICZ.

He died in Scotland, so that means that it's possible to go back to the grandparents of Jurzas/Yurzas/Youzas MERCINKIAWICZ.

On Jurzas/Yurzas/Youzas's own death record, it shows that he used the alias Joseph SMITH !


How Jurzas/Yurzas/Youzas morphed into Moteyus on his 1901 marriage record I refuse to speculate !

wkr

Kirkmichael

[scotmum]

http://www.holyfamilymossend.org.uk/lithuanians1.htm

Apparently,"... in Lanarkshire, of the 1800 Lithuanians called up, 700 joined the British Army and 1100 chose 'deportation' to Russia".

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,546938.msg4355649.html#msg4355649

[W.Smith]

Hi Scotmum,

Thanks for that info, I've sent an email to the Mossend Parish to see if they have any info.

Good reading with the other link, not sure which way he went ?

Many thanks,

Bill

[whifflet]

I have family who came from Northern Ireland to mining jobs between 1850 - 1861   Is there anywhere I can find out when they came over and what shipiing they may have used.  They settled in Cambusnethan Lanarkshire  They are in the 1861 census  Dimisdale Street, then lived in Caledonian Road till they passed away.  As they probably had to make their own way over, I wonder how they did it, and to where they landed would it be Glasgow?  Any info would be appreciated.  Thankyou

[Skoosh]

Steamer to Greenock, Glasgow or Port Patrick.  I don't think it was any big deal, Irish seasonal agricultural workers  crossed back & forth every summer.

Skoosh.