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Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« on: Monday 14 January 13 00:13 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on my great grandfather, Patrick Lynch of Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan. He was born around 1870, and later married Mary McMahon (born to Laurence McMahon and Bridget Dolan) of Carrigagh, Moynalty, Meath, in 1893. However, I am trying to find out who Patrick's parents were, where he was born and in what year?

Family lore states that his dad was also named Patrick, and that he was a horse rustler in Cavan, but I am not sure who the younger Patrick's mother was? The families ancestral home in Cavan was confiscated by British during Cromwells time, but we don't have a townland name. I know my g grandpa had a brother, Hugh, and possibly another brother named Peter (who is listed in the 1911 census for Drumgolan, Cavan), but I am unable to confirm these details. They are also said to have had to sneak back into Cavan since they were notorious horse thieves.

Any help you could provide is greatly appreciated, as it would really help my family to trace the Lynch family beyond 1860. We have the history from 1870 to present, but the past eludes us.

Many thanks.

PJ
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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #1 on: Monday 14 January 13 00:31 GMT (UK) »
Patrick Lynch’s marriage to Mary McMahon was registered in Kells Oct – Dec 1893 Volume 2, page 717. If you order a copy of that certificate, it should give you Patrick’s father’s name and occupation. Should also give you a townland which may help trace the family back. (Try parish records for baptisms of him and his siblings). There’s 9 Patrick Lynch births registered in Co. Cavan in 1870, so you need a little more information before you can order a birth certificate.
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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #2 on: Monday 14 January 13 00:37 GMT (UK) »
Patrick and Mary's marriage certificate should list his father's name.

Peter Lynch in 1911:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cavan/Virginia/Drumagolan/349923
same Peter Lynch in 1901:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Donegal/Stranorlar/Ballybofey_Town/1199795
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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #3 on: Monday 14 January 13 18:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for your reply. I viewed their marriage record from the www.rootsireland.re website several months ago, but it it is missing some info. However, it shows that Patrick Lynch and Mary MacMahon were married on 30 Aug 1893, in Moynalty, Co. Meath. What it doesn't show is their fathers' names, witness info and townland. 

I know from family records that Mary's family was living at Carrigagh (Curraha) in Meath, but they ended up moving to where some of Patrick's family lived in Cavan (or so I have been told), settling at Corragloon(e), Crossbane.  I was hoping to discover the ancestral home of the Lynches, rather than where they settled in the mid-1800s, but that may be impossible due to the lack of records. Family rumor has it that they descended from a Colla line and possibly the Stuarts (but it's unconfirmed and my grandma would never talk about it)?

I never heard anything about Peter living in Donegal, but it looks like Patrick and Peter's brothers were also living there too around 1901. However, Peter lists on the census records that he was born in Cavan, and his wife was born in Antrim.  Family lore states that part of his family fled Cavan in order to escape prosecution for stealing horses and cattle. My understanding is that they snuck back into Cavan and set up house without the authorities (British) knowing.

To obtain an official copy of their marriage and birth records, where can I purchase one? I am assuming these records would have more information than what was on the records I downloaded from IFHF?

Thank you again.

PJ
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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 January 13 18:56 GMT (UK) »
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index
There are quiet a few Patrick Lynch in Cavan - some being in Mullagh that you mention. :)

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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 January 13 19:05 GMT (UK) »

To obtain an official copy of their marriage and birth records, where can I purchase one? I am assuming these records would have more information than what was on the records I downloaded from IFHF?


Go to the GRO Roscommon website: www.groireland.ie/  Download the application form you need, and complete with the information you have, including the location, year, quarter (if one is shown), Volume & page number. Put that information on the lines for date and place of the event etc. Don’t worry if you have to leave some boxes blank, eg PPS number. Be sure to tick the box marked photocopy if that suits you as that is cheaper. You then either fax or post the form off (there is no e-mail option for certs pre 1.1.1922). Should cost you €4 for a photocopy. Their turnaround time is 7 to 10 days plus however long the post takes.

You will normally get more information on the actual certificate than appears on some commercial sites.
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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #6 on: Monday 14 January 13 19:08 GMT (UK) »
to follow up on the details Elwyn posted - these are notes on the details that are included on Civil research certs. (except for some usual situations or mistakes etc)

See : Ordering Certs from GRO Roscommon
        Details included on a Birth Cert
        Details included on a Marriage Cert
        Details included on a Death Cert



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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 15 January 13 01:20 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help. I'll follow up and let you know how it goes.
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Re: Look-up: Patrick Lynch, Coragloon, Mullagh, Cavan Abt. 1870
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 May 13 00:02 BST (UK) »
So I order the documents, but it came back that they have no record of my great grandma, Mary MacMahon/McMahon? I know she was baptized in Moynalty, Meath on 17 April 1869, but apparently, this wasn't when or where she was born. I have copies of her baptism record from the Irish History Foundation site, but I need to figure out where she was born in order to get her certificate. Guess it's back to the drawing board!
MacMahon/McMahon, Lynch, Reilly, Carolan, and Dolan families of Carrigagh, Moynalty, Meath, Ireland; Lynch family of Corragloon, Mullagh/Virginia, Cavan; Mulvany, Fitzsimons and Lynch of Edenburt and Whitegate, Kells, Meath.