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Scott Ancestry
« on: Friday 11 January 13 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi could anyone help? I am trying to get some information about my late fathers family his name was Thomas Scott born Thorn-liebank Eastwood Renfrewshire he had 3 brothers that I know of William dob 1896, George dob 1902 and John dob? death 1985 he was a bachelor and lived with his sister Crissie in Renfrew her married name was Faulds. I live in England and am with Ancestry been trying for two weeks but getting nowhere ::) Weed

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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 January 13 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Weed

You are likely not to get too far with using just A/try unfortunately..... It is great for checking census transcripts but for original images of the census and the 1911 which looks key for your dates for now, you need to go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk - the official pay to view site for Scottish records including BMDs.

Have you had a look at some of the guidance posts for researching in Scotland here on RC, such as:

www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,116131.0.html

Have you got your father's birth cert and/or his marriage cert? Have you been able to confirm his parents' names? Have you tried looking for the family on the 1911 census? All of this info will help you in establishing some of the facts for the details you are looking for.

Monica  :)
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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 January 13 16:13 GMT (UK) »
From your post here a while ago www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,567236.0.html

Can someone please help me I am trying to find the correct date when my grandmother died I thought it was 1945 but my older brother thought it was later I cant remember her, I have discovered she  was born in Antrim Ireland
 July 1875 her name was Jane or on some things Jenny Cathcart she married Thomas Scott1894 Eastwood area of Pollockshaws they were living there on on the 1901 Census  but moved to Paisley I have tried Ancestry and Scotlands people without success  ??? Weed

That is good news that you have this info already so you should be able to find their marriage cert on Scotlands People.

So, this would be the family in 1901?:

Thomas Scott 29 Printfield Labourer b. Ireland
Jane Scott 26 b. Ireland
Christina Scott 5 b. thornliebank, Renfrew
William Scott 3 b. thornliebank, Renfrew
Mary Scott   6 Months b. thornliebank, Renfrew
Robert Moffat 65 boarder b. Ireland
John Plard 36 boarder b. Ireland

Address: 70 Main St, Eastwood Renfrewshire

The 1911 census would help you confirm the names of other aunts and uncles.

Monica
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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 12 January 13 15:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica I would like to thank you for taking the trouble to help me with the above subject but  as you say I need the 1911 census.  I will keep trying and once again thank you for your help Weed.


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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #4 on: Monday 29 July 13 21:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Weed

The sister of Thomas Scott that you mention was my wife's grandmother. Her name was Cassie, not Chrissie, though she had a daughter Chrissie, as well as another daughter, who is still alive and is my mother-in-law.

I do not feel comfortable putting information regarding living and recently deceased people on the internet, but if you want to contact me by email on *  I will send you what information I have.

Regards
Norman

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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 May 22 01:04 BST (UK) »
Hi!  Newby and a Yank.  Saw this post and thought I would give it a look.  My connection Is to an Alexander Scott 1830s to about 1866 and Elizabeth Lang 1831 to 1925.  Both lived in the same household belonging to the Lang family.  I can trace the Langs but having trouble with the Scott family.  Wonder if these Scott's

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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 May 22 19:02 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat, JJSy

You obviously have more information about your Scott/Lang family. To save RootsChatters duplicating what you have already done, please tell us more.

- where was Alexander Scott born?
- where was Elizabeth Lang born?
- did they die in Scotland?
- what were the names of their children and when were they born?
- have you found them in any census?
- did they live in the Lang household before their marriage, or after their marriage, or both? 
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 May 22 19:30 BST (UK) »

- where was Alexander Scott born?  Born Paisley, Renfrew in about 1831 died about 1867, in1851 living as a lodger in the household of William Lang Blairsdale and listed as a coal miner
- where was Elizabeth Lang born?     Born Johnstone, Renfrew, about 1834
- did they die in Scotland?  Alexander, yes, Elizabeth died in 1925 in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, USA
- what were the names of their children and when were they born?Alexander b. 1851,Mary 1854, William b. 1859, David b. 1860, Elizabeth b. 1867.
- have you found them in any census?  Yes, 1851, 1861, 1871
- did they live in the Lang household before their marriage, or after their marriage, or both? both

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Re: Scott Ancestry
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 17 May 22 21:45 BST (UK) »
You seem to have missed Thomas, b 26 April 1863, and Jeannie, born 7 November 1865. Both died in New Kilpatrick in 1866. One or both of their death certificates will tell you whether their father died before them, which should narrow down the search for his death.

If Elizabeth was aged 2 on census day 1871, she would have been born in 1868 or 1869. Have you got her birth certificate? Her date of birth will further narrow the possible date of Alexander Scott's death.

Unless of course Alexander had left the family? Maybe he went on ahead to America to get settled in a job before sending for his family? Or maybe he just disappeared and Elizabeth made out that she was a widow to save face?

I see that Alexander and his baby son were staying with the Langs, who must be Elizabeth's parents, in 1851. (It's Blairdardie, by the way, not Blairsdale - are you using Ancestry's notoriously inaccurate transcriptions? If so you should always check by looking at the original document. See https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=55.90208&lon=-4.36130&layers=6&b=1) Not surprising as they were married less than a week later.

Without a death certificate to tell you the names of Alexander's parents you are going to struggle to trace him further back.

There's only one baptism of an Alexander Scott in Renfrewshire in 1829-1832, in Neilston. He is in the 1841 and 1851 census with his family so he can be eliminated from your search.

This means that the record of his baptism, if it ever existed, has not survived. That may be because his parents didn't bother, or it might be because he was illegitimate.

You could read through the minutes of the Paisley Kirk Sessions, which are available at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, to see if you can find any mention of either a man or a woman named Scott being summoned before the Kirk Session for an unmarried pregnancy. Also to see if there is any mention of the parish looking after Alexander when he was too young to fend for himself.

Either way it looks unlikely that he has anything to do with the Scott family mentioned earlier in this thread, because the head of that family was born in Ireland after Elizabeth Lang described herself as a widow.

In order to avoid confusion, you could consider asking a Moderator to split your query off into a separate thread of its own.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.