James Aucott & Ann Billings

[Birstall]

James Aucott c1777 and Ann Frith had several children in the Stoke Golding, Barwell area between 1803 and 1823. Several of the sons emigrated to Germantown Pennsylvania and we have been able to follow their lives through various means including censuses, passenger lists etc. One person who also came to the US is a James Aucott but we can cannot find his baptism and cannot for certain link him to this family although there is obvious circumstantial evidence. James c1804  married Ann Billings at St Margarets on 31st Jan 1825.
It occurred to me that witnesses might be siblings, if someone could have a look as to what information is on the parish record, I'd be very grateful. If the father's names are there all the better,  James the elder died in 1836.

[JaneyCanuck]

Just thought it might help to list the ones in Pennsylvania, from census info at familysearch. These are the ones I have found:

- George Aucott c1819/1821 from 1850 census onward, with wife Ann c1817 England then wife Charlotte c1811 England, son Thomas c1843 born England, other children born Pennsylvania
- Saml Aucott/Samuel Aucutt c1815/1816 England, died 1889 Phila PA (married but can't see with wife in census)
- Joseph Aucott c1823 with wife Sarah c1832 born England, children all born in Pennsylvania
- Thomas Aucut c1812 England with wife Mary c1812 England, eldest children born England
c1836, 1838
- John Ocott c1817 England, died 1892 Phila PA?

Children of James and Ann shown at FreeREG were:
William 1813
Cornelia 1817
George 1821
Joseph 1823
FS also has:
Edward 1803

Is the c1804 birthdate for James taken from records in the US that match that age and wife's name (Ann Billings)?

Samuel c1816 with wife Lucy and George c1821 are together in St Margaret with Bishops Fee in 1841.
Thos c1811 and wife Mary are also there.
I don't see Joseph (or John), even using wildcards.

And I don't see your mystery James Aucott in the US or in England in a census!

There's a James Aucutt c1806 in St Geo Han Sq Middlesex in 1841, not born in county, but his wife is Mary, with son George c1831. There's a George with wife Sarah who had children Charles 1861, Frank c1865, Howard A 1866, Mida Hawkins 1868, in Phila PA ... per US censuses, born c1834-6 England. He seems to have fought in the US civil war. Can't tell whose kid he is, though.

A James Aucott was baptised 1800 Market Bosworth, son of Edward and Elizabeth. (There are numerous slightly later baptisms in Stoke Golding to Edward and Hannah, married 1810 - witness Jas Aucott.)
Your James Sr appears to have been the son of Thomas and Mary, who had numerous children but no Edward shows at FS. James Sr and Edward, both of whom baptised children in Stoke Golding, are obviously related, though. For Edward's son to have emigrated with James's sons wouldn't be unimaginable.

I note a young James Aucott in the 1861 and later censuses in Leicester ... born c1846 in Canada(?) or "America" ... also William Aucott born c1848 "America". In the 1850 US census they are with parents Thomas and Mary, in Germantown, who also returned to Leicestershire.

I have been no help at all, just doodling with a tricky name and set of facts, and adding a few details that might help someone else looking at your question!

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s …………
St: Margaret’s Parish Church.
Leicester.

Registers read thus :~

Register entry No’. 550.

James Aucott. Bachelor of this Parish.
Ann Billings Spinster of this Parish.

Married in this church
This Thirty first Day of January.
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty Five.
By banns By Me Robert Barnaby. Curate.
Both signed by their Marks X times two

In the presence of :~
Edward Aucott.
Maria Aucott.

Looks like Edward was Jame's Brother
Maria wife of Edward née Munton Married Edward 20th. November 1824.

MIKE. ……

[Birstall]

Many apologies for not responding sooner. I assumed I would be notified by email that I had received a response.
I have now received a copy of the entry as a friend was able to visit the records office and discovered that Edward and Maria Munton were indeed witnesses. Edward was his older sibling if they were brothers but given the evidence that he and no less than 3 other brothers emigrated to Germantown I believe that they were, in fact related, if not brothers.
I am in contact with the descendants of James and Ann in the US and am trying to substantiate the lineage of those Aucotts to those who hailed from the Earl Shilton Stoke and Daddlington areas. Thank you all for your contributions.

[ansteynomad]

Birstall, I've just found this post and am intrigued by your interest in the Aucotts.

I've only very recently got involved with them because George Aucott's 'wife' Charlotte was previously the cohabitee of my four times great grandfather Joseph Bodycote, who also emigrated to Germantown and the mother of his illegitimate son Joseph Noon Bodycote (182901904).

So what? You may say, but Joseph's granddaughter Ann Bodycote married my great great grandfather Joseph Goadby (1845-1877) and I think that was pretty much where we came in.

It's a small world and the further you travel, the smaller it gets.

[Birstall]

Hello ansteynomad,

I'll absorb this information and get back with you if I have any significant info to offer.

Thanks for getting in touch

Bruce

Edit which George Aucott are you referring to?

[JaneyCanuck]

Hi you guys,

I'm not connected and don't remember any of this, all these years later

but I think the reference is to the one I posted about above:

George Aucott c1819/1821 from 1850 census onward,
with wife Ann c1817 England
then wife Charlotte c1811 England,
son Thomas c1843 born England, other children born Pennsylvania

BTW, one never knows where these second spouses and such might lead one.

Some years ago, I was contacted via Ancestry by someone whose grx4 grandmother was also my grx4 grandmother, me from the first husband and she, as she had found out, from the second husband. She had found an "Aunt Hxx" in one of her family's households in the mid-1800s, thought Now who the heck is that? and traced her up and back down the trees, i.e. discovering she came from a second husband and delving into the family of the first husband, and lighted on my correction to the name of my great-grandmother, the great-granddaughter of what turned out to be our shared grx4 grandmother born in the late 1700s.

Not too out of the ordinary -- until the distant cousin in question, who was on site and had access to  Canterbury records years before they became available to the likes of me in Canada online, pursued those investigations and before long had advised me that I am the second cousin four times removed of a particularly eminent Viscount, whom I knew well from my law studies in Canada. My avatar image depicts the five women who took their appeal calling for the recognition of women as "persons" for the purposes of appointment to the Senate all the way to the House of Lords, where my cousin allowed the appeal and in so doing penned one of the most influential of Canadian constitutional decisions. Thank goodness he was a Labour life peer.

In tracking relations of relations, I also discovered (again, thanks to someone who came across my online name corrections, sharing info I would never have found or figured out) that I am related ... by marriage ... to the leaders of Ireland's 1916 Easter Rising.

So ya never know what treasures such distant cousins may bear.

[Birstall]

Ok but I only have one wife of George's 1821. Ann Laxton
According to the 1870 census he is a farmer in Philadelphia living with a Charlotte who I though was his sister. The lady is 59, which ties in with her birth/baptism Dec 30 1810.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-XCX7-MMW?i=128&cc=1438024&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AMZ5T-NBY


Of course my assumption could be wrong.

[JaneyCanuck]

1860 census for son Cornelius from the 1870:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXR7-1ZQ

Mary not present so presumably George Aucott is widowed.

Charlotte Bodycot with Joseph in 1860:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MXR7-25Y

Both were in 1st district 22nd ward Germantown, on pages 5 and 7.

For info since I'm sure this is all known to ansteynomad.