Robert Beattie

[Briellen]

Hi Reiver,

Some info on his birth from the 1841 census:

Name: Robert Beattie
Event type: Census
Event date: 1841
Gender: Male
Age: 72
Birthplace: Dumfriesshire
Parish: Lochmaben
County: Dumfriesshire
Estimated birth year: 1769

Film number (FamilySearch): 1042831

[Briellen]

This I found on Janet Chalmers :

Janet Chalmers, b. 26 Oct 1769 , chr. 5 Nov 1769 in Ratho, Midlothian
Parents Thomas Chalmers and Isabel Aitken

I also found a few Mary Graham's attached to Lochmaben, plus the birth of 2 children William and Chatrin (female) to both Robert and Mary.

Briellen

[Reiver]

Thanks Briellin.
I look forward to hearing what you have found about the earlier Beatties. As I've said I have done a fair bit myself so I maybe able to help you and your contacts.

Thanks also for Robert's entry in the 1841 Census.  As far as age is concerned this more or less tallies with his age at death in 1851.   He died in June 1851 after the 1851 Census - end of March 1851 -was taken. But I have not been able to find him.  Hence my query about how to find someone on the census if initials only were recorded.

Reiver

[fishergate]

I read your information on Robert Beattie 1769 - 1851 with interest as I am trying to trace what happened to William Beattie, the son born to Mary Graham on 12th March 1799. Do you have any information on him - whether he died before 1824 or married in Scotland. My 2xgt grandfather was born in Dumfriesshire about this time and I have researched most of the William Beatties born in the 1790's without much certainty. My William Beattie was a tea dealer, married in Shropshire in 1824 and died in Welshpool in 1874. His eldest grandson was called Robert Beattie. I have traced
Robert Beattie's family back from Lochmaben to Westerkirk. What happened to Mary Graham ?
Best wishes
fishergate

[Reiver]

How absolutely marvellous

I do know that Robert married Mary Graham before he married my direct ancestor Janet Porteous in 1811.  Assuming that Robert and Janet's marriage was not bigamous I looked for a death / burial of a Mary Beattie and found one in the OPR in the parish of Langholm / Stapelgorton on 28th April 1809. I cannot find a headstone inscription for her, however.

My interest in Robert is pretty well set out from the start of this series of posts.

Robert and Janet's son - my gg grandfather - was named Benjamin (an interesting choice of name).  However his son, my g gf, and his son, my gf, and his son my father were all William
Not me, however

You say you can link Robert to Eskdale.  That would be interesting to say the least 

Reiver

[fishergate]

Hello Neil, I have received a tree, which you probably have (because you are on it as the Blackburn branch )  WALTER Beattie b. 1679 m Marion Black d. Craig 1752. Children John d.1866 Watcarrick Elizabeth born 1736 d. 1804. WILLIAMb. 1724 m. 1767 Anne Scott d. 1800 Fingland. Children Walter d. 1769 Watcarrick Andrew d. 1860 Margaret b. 1770.d. 1782 ROBERT b. 1770 Watcarrick m. Mary Graham 1795(d. 1810). d. 1851. Children:Chatrin b. 1796; WILLIAM 1799 d. ? ;WILLIAM 1803 d. 1860 ? Ann b. 1805; Barbara b & D. 1810 . Robert married (2) Janet Chalmers 1811 daughter of William Chalmers (miller) and Elizabeth Farish Son Benjamin b. 1812 -1894 m. Janet Mcnairn 1849( 1824-1884) One of his sons was William Chalmers 1853- 1896 m,. Janet Porteus 1875 (1851-1885 ) I have some Porteus marrying Beatties but Janet doesn't feature in it. Anyway William 1799 is out of the picture !! 

[Reiver]

Thanks Briellin for the tree information.  It is something I am aware of however.  I am reluctant to accept it in total.  Is it a tree from Ancestry?  is a name given?

Really, until I can find a positive date of birth/baptism for Robert i would rather not accept the tree beyond him.  As I said earlier William Beattie and his wife Ann Scott are buried at Watcarrick Burial ground as are his parents Walter Beattie and Marion Black.  So also are some of William and Ann's children.  I may have information to take it further back from Walter.

One of these was 'baby' Walter who died in February 1769 only months old.  Say born 1n 1768.   Robert based on his age (1841 census - 72) and his death (Lochmaben cemetery - June 1851 age 81) was born seemingly 1768 - 1780.  Is it practical for Robert to fit in after Walter???

I do have information on the Scotts in Eskdale / Ewesdale.  I suggest using a PM if you think I can help.

Reiver