Thank you again, I'll now have to try and confirm the link I have between the families Foster and Carr, it all makes some sort of sense. How many gamblers named Joseph C Foster can there be who fought for the Confederate army, was wounded, and died as a result of his occupation, a gunfight! That 1880 census says single and born Florida? I was thinking he was born in England, and a few years older, but his father may be the direct link to the UK. Great story isn't it. Fred