Looking for Wilson children

[Robert Fletcher]

Hello, first of all I need to explain that I have never had to search for Canadian records before and I'm feeling a little bit out of my depth.
William John Wilson aged 35 and Frances Allen Newman age 21 married on 15 Dec 1916 Ontario. William's address is given as, Fenner TP, Victoria County.
Frances came out as an orphan from England.
The information I would like is did they have any children. Is there any record of their death and burial.
As I said in the beginning I have no clue as to how to start looking the marriages on Ancestry and that's about all. So any resources you can give me would be most helpful.

Robert…

[valeriec]

You stated Fenner Township but could it be Fenelon Township

There is a Frances Newman, homechild, age 11, arriving 1908.

http://automatedgenealogy.com
has
1911 census/Ontario/Peterborough West/14 Smith/page 3
Frances Newman, female, servant, b. August 1895, age 16, England, immigrated 1908, labourer on farm, in the household of George Mullen, farmer

1911/Ontario/Victoria - Haliburton/56 Verulan
William Wilson, age 29, single b. Nov 1881, age 29, farmer
his sister Eliza, age 20, is also living with him,

These are the 2 closest in age and area to each other that could be your couple that married in Dec. 1916.

Her age could have been mistranscribed on the home child records as it is out by 3 years but all other info fits.

Verulan in Victoria County is now Kawartha Lakes and is bounded on the west by Fenelon TP and the east by the County of Peterborough.

All vital statistics are by province and each province has there own privacy laws. Therefore, it is really important to try to find an area to search for your couple.

Family search is one site, local libraries are excellent sites as they may have info that isn't on line such as old newspapers, family histories, etc. The 1921 census for Canada is due to be released sometime in 2013 but when and through which site remains unknown. It will also take some time for transcriptions to take place.

If this sounds like it could be your Frances, post that info here and I am sure someone will pick up on this thread and see what they can find. Also if you know her parents, post that as well as it may make it easier to find info.

[Robert Fletcher]

Thank you so much for your reply it has been a great help. And I think you're right about the location. The marriage record shows Frances Allen Newman aged 21 born about 1895 England, the father Stephen Newman and the mother Bessie Deaciss (Dracass).

So I am pretty certain what you are found in the census is correct. What I am hoping now is that we are able to find some children. From what is being said in the family there was to children who came over in the war but they never did visit the family here in Hinckley.

I'm going to have to sit down and work through all the recent information I've collected. But if anyone else could take me a step further it would be very greatly appreciated.

Robert…

[valeriec]

I would contact the closest public library and give them all your information and they may be able to find something on the sons that served in WW2. Newspapers in Canada did have lots of writeups on local boys who served. The library is your best bet for finding marriages/deaths if they stayed in the area. You have the area from the census and wedding and the library may be able to determine what data is available for that area. Most libraries have a contact section with "Ask a Librarian" and some have genealogy sections. City iof Kawartha Lakes has many small libraries but there should be one head branch.

Your main problem is that Wilson is such a common surname.
I will keep looking.
Val

[polarbear]

The marriage record for William and Frances indicates that William was a Widower. A Wm John Wilson  with parents James Wilson and Mary Brown age 24 was apparently married to a Lavina Nancekivel (?) of Mariposa Tp in Victoria County in 1904. Lavina died 22 Mar 1914 in Mariposa Division of Victoria County.

This is the couple in the 1911 census ... they do not appear to have any children. Click on split view near the top to access the original image which provides more info than the transcript.

http://automatedgenealogy.com/census11/View.jsp?id=128094&highlight=4&desc=1911+Census+of+Canada+page+containing+William+Wilson

The parents of William who married Frances are also James Wilson and Mary Brown so it looks like this is the same William Wilson.

Also, if you look near the bottom of the marriage cert, it looks like Frances signed her name as Frances Alice Newman? There is a birth record on FreeBMD for a Frances Alice Newman in Portsea Sep qtr 1894 which is the same area her parents were married in in 1892. Might Allen be a transcription error (the writing is so faint and bad it is hard to read)?

PB

[valeriec]

Mariposa is also part of the City of Kawartha Lake so I found the wrong William John but still in the same area. Great find polarbear as this gets Robert a bit closer to finding his info.
Val

[JaneyCanuck]

Nancekivell (more common spelling) is a Devon surname par excellence.

Three people have Levina Nancekievill in their trees at Ancestry/Mundia -- that's another common variant. Mundia.com is free to sign up, search and send messages. None of those trees show William John Wilson's other marriage, but one does show parents and siblings of William. That could be useful information, for instance if descendants of a sibling could be traced:

father Geo H, 1852
mother Mary Brown, 1845
William John, 1880
siblings
Eliza
Edward 1883
Marshell 1884
Mary Jane 1892

This is the split screen view showing the household in 1901 in Lindsay, Ontario:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=105954&highlight=22

and the 1891 census image:
http://automatedgenealogy.com/census/ViewFrame.jsp?id=105954&highlight=22

On both, the son shown as born 1880 is named John. This info is also slightly different from what polarbear posted, since the father on those records is James and the mother Mary Brown. It's quite possible the tree owner has simply picked the wrong Wilson family from the census. It's tiresome how often that happens, when people are padding their trees with names that aren't really related to them.

[mr.rjw]

Hello!
Better late than never, I am a grandson of William Wilson and Frances Alice Newman. Unfortunately my father, Roy Francis Wilson, has passed, as well as his siblings.
I have been trying to backtrack Frances for some time, and have started to make some headway. Ironically, I was searching my grandfathers first wife, Lavina, when Google brought up your request looking for Wilson children. I have many questions and answers, just somewhat bowled over right now to see this thread.
There were 6 children, Wilbert, Garnet, Albert, Roy, Alice and Nellie. Nellie was the last, she passed away about 6 years ago. Hope to see your reply.
Regards, Robert John Wilson

[mr.rjw]

Update for those who have read this thread recently. Robert Fletcher and I have been in contact and with his help I have connected with a second cousin in the UK that I wasn't aware of. The three of us will be working together to fill in the blanks and re-connect after no contact for approximately 70 years. Thanks Rootschat!