Addison Family

[thebabsie]

I would like to verify some information that I have off of the web site Family Search.  Something is wrong and I am hoping that someone is able to help me.
Rebecca Wales born 1 March 1813 Lincolnshire, England to Rebecca Wales and John Addison.
John Addison born 18 March 1771 Lincolnshire, England to Michael Addison and Mary Tufnall.
Michael Addison born 29 September 1737 Lincolnshire, England to John Addison and Eleanor(a).
John Addison born 9 May 1718 Lincolnshire, England to William Addison and Anne.

The problem is that John and Eleanor(a) Addison began having children in 1726, which would make John 8 years of age and Eleanor(a) 4 years of age.

Please help.

[pamthomas]

Lincolnshire is a large county with a lot of parishes so a slightly more detailed location than plain 'Lincolnshire' is required before anyone can help.

What details are given against the entries on FamilySearch? If you expand the basic details there should be a source location or something similar (FS isn't working for me at the moment so I can't quote precisely) which in turn will lead you to a batch or film number.

I suspect that someone has linked the wrong John and Eleanor, but with no knowledge of the parishes which might be involved it's impossible to say. Or they could have misquoted dates.

What I have quickly found out from some of my old Lincolnshire Family History Society marriage indexes 1700-1837 is:
Michael Addison and Mary Tufnall married in Sleaford in 1780.

'a' William Addison married an Ann Atkinson in 1724 Boston St Botolph
No other William/Anns married south of Lincoln.

Rebecca Wales and John Addison married 1794 in Freiston.

John Addinson(sic) and Elinor(sic) Jackson married 1723 Bloxholm.

The John born in 1771 to Michael and Mary may have died because there is another John baptised in 1780, also to a Michael and Mary. (Might have been a different M&M.)
That was found on FreeREG.

My gut feeling is that there are two different families, though perhaps connected.
Boston and Freiston are about 3 miles apart.
Sleaford and Bloxholm are about 5 miles apart.
Boston and Sleaford are about 17 miles apart.

[thebabsie]

What I have that I am certain of is:
John Addison (b. 18 March 1771, Old Sleaford, Lincolnshire) married Rebekah(Rebecca) Wales
6 May 1794 Butterwick, Holland, Lincolnshire .  John Addison is the son of Michael and Mary Addison.  Rebekah Wales is the daughter of William Wales and Elizabeth Ellis.
Michael Addison (not sure of exact birth but have 1737) married Mary Tufnall 16 February 1770, Old Sleaford, Lincolnshire. 
Michael Addison is the son of John Addison and Eleanor (Ellinor).
I do not know how to find which parish they were connected.  John Addison (1771) was a sailor and died in Barbados.  His daughter, Rebecca Wales, is my great-great grandmother.

Any help would be wonderful.  Thank you for your response.

[pamthomas]

Whilst not wishing to entirely destroy your research you have certain facts which are definitely incorrect and others which may be incorrect.

What I have that I am certain of is:
John Addison (b. 18 March 1771, Old Sleaford, Lincolnshire) 

As per my previous message I think the John baptised in 1771 to Michael and Mary in Old Sleaford died.  See the entry for February 1778.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=648562&iid=324470
There was another son John baptised 5 Nov 1780 (left-hand page)
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=814202&iid=324538
but he would have been a little young (though IIRC of legal age) to have married in 1794.

What I have that I am certain of is:
John Addison (b. 18 March 1771, Old Sleaford, Lincolnshire) married Rebekah(Rebecca) Wales
6 May 1794 Butterwick, Holland, Lincolnshire .
John Addison is the son of Michael and Mary Addison.  Rebekah Wales is the daughter of William Wales and Elizabeth Ellis.

Sorry, but that information is wrong. As per my previous message, they married in Freiston.
Page of marriages in Butterwick in 1794
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=542653&iid=105449
Marriage of John and Rebecca in Freiston.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=525205&iid=244008

Michael Addison (not sure of exact birth but have 1737) married Mary Tufnall 16 February 1770, Old Sleaford, Lincolnshire. 
Michael Addison is the son of John Addison and Eleanor (Ellinor).
I do not know how to find which parish they were connected.
John Addison (1771) was a sailor and died in Barbados.  His daughter, Rebecca Wales, is my great-great grandmother.
Any help would be wonderful.  Thank you for your response.

Earlier you said that John Addison married Rebecca Wales. Surely his daughter, if she followed family tradition of having a family surname as a middle name would be called Rebecca Wales Addison.
Do you mean that John's wife Rebecca is your great-great grandmother?

There is a marriage of a Rebecca Wales in 1833 in Donington to a William Motley.

[thebabsie]

I am very grateful for all the help you have provided.  Thank you.

William Motley (b. about 1802, Donington, Lincolnshire)  married  Rebecca Wales Addison (b. 1 March 1813 Corby, Lincolnshire) on 21 May 1833, Donington, Lincolnshire.
(This Rebecca is my great-great grandmother.)
Rebecca's parents are John Addison (b. 18 March 1771, Old Sleaford, Lincolnshire) and Rebekah Wales (b. 3 February 1771, Corby, Lincolnshire).  They were married 6 May 1794, Lincolnshire, England. 
As far as I am aware, they had three children.  Christopher (b. 18 November 1791 Friskney, Lincolnshire); John (b. 1801) and my great-great grandmother, Rebecca (b. 1 March 1813, Corby, Lincolnshire).
I apologize that is mixed up Christopher's birth place of Friskney with their place of marriage, Freiston.
This information has been given to me through the family line/bible.  It was also given to me last spring by Chris, one of the moderators for this web site.  So, I am as sure as anyone can be that this information is correct.
I have John Addison's parents listed as Michael and Mary (Tufnall) Addison. 
I have Michael Addison's parents listed as John and Eleanor Addison.  This is where the dates must be wrong.  John's date of birth is listed as 1718, but if it is actually 1708, then it all fits.
I was hoping that someone with access to the records would be able to verify the birth date, or anything that would help.
I have no idea of how to find which "Parish" their records are kept.  If there is some way of finding this information, I would be most grateful and would be able to locate the information that I am missing rather then bother other people.
Thank you very much for all you help and, mostly, for your time of looking this up.
Bless you.

[Geoff-E]

As far as I am aware, they had three children.  Christopher (b. 18 November 1791 Friskney, Lincolnshire); John (b. 1801) and my great-great grandmother, Rebecca (b. 1 March 1813, Corby, Lincolnshire).

I don't have time to verify anything at the moment but there is a marriage which may complicate things ...

28 June 1808 at Freiston
William WEBBER to Rebecca ADDISON (widow)  - 2nd on left here http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=525205&iid=244047

I've now found the burial at Freiston of a John ADDISON (67) on 10 May 1808.

then Rebecca WEBBER was buried at Frieston 11 Oct 1822 aged 49. 

[Geoff-E]

I think the time has come to evaluate the situation ...

You have said your ancestor was Rebecca Wales ADDISON ... but as Pam pointed out, the person who married Wm MOTLEY in 1833 was Rebecca WALES.  How did we reach this far back?  Are you descended from a child of that marriage?  Have these people been found in censuses?

You are giving us "facts" which seem speculative.  Rebecca, allegedly born in Corby, was not the child of the couple in Freiston as John died 4-5 years before her birth.  Rebecca had married someone else too, so was a WEBBER ... not a WALES or an ADDISON - so it's doubtful she would have had a WALES daughter at that time. 

I can find no WALES bap at Corby at all, and no ADDISON after 1700.

[pamthomas]

I think the time has come to evaluate the situation ...

More than time, Geoff. 

Three other threads to evaluate as well.
Two Motley threads
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,586801.msg4379376.html#msg4379376
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,598791.0.html
Wales thread
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,586861.msg4379886.html#msg4379886

From all the threads I gather that Charles Edward Motley 1855-1929 (born in the US) is Bab's direct ancestor.
His parents were William Motley and Rebecca Wales who were married in Donington (i.e.Donington with one 'n' in Holland, to differentiate from other Don(n)ingtons in Lincolnshire) on  21 May 1833
(top left)
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=531976&iid=201627

In the 1841 census William and Rebecca are living in Donington with children
Mary (7), Martha (5) Harriet (4) Betsy(2), Sally (2 months).
Census ref is HO107/606/15 folio 49 page 17.
William's age is given as 40, Rebecca's as 30, and everyone is said to have been born in county.

Baptisms of the children, all in the Church of England parish church dedicated to St Mary and the Holy Rood, at Donington.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=197962
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=198000
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=198010
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=198044
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=198071
There was also George baptised 1843
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=198102

When William married Rebecca he was a widower.
Bearing in mind his age in 1841 was given as 40 (so therefore born c1801) his previous wife is probably the Mary Mottley (sic) who was buried in Donington 19 Mar 1831 aged 29. (born c1802)
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=710824&iid=198862

Baptisms (all in Donington, and children of William and Mary)
George Henry Motley 1822
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=526929&iid=202681
Thomas Motley 1824
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=526929&iid=202708
William Motley 1827 (FreeREG says 1826 which is wrong),
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=526929&iid=202752
Mary Motley 1829
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=197883
Sarah Mottley(sic) 1830
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=524286&iid=197898

Sadly, burials of the children. Three of them within 32 days in 1827.
Thomas, aged 3
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=710824&iid=198812
William, aged 10 months
Thomas aged 5 is listed, but I think this must be George Henry who was born 1822 and who would have been 5.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=710824&iid=198817
Mary, in 1829, buried just over a fortnight after her baptism
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=710824&iid=198841
Sarah, in 1835, aged 5
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=710824&iid=198911

I would think that William's first wife was Mary Eyeion and they married at Quadring 3 Jul 1821. At the time of the marriage William was living in Gosberton.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=546211&iid=307471

Excellent site for finding how near - or far away - parishes were to each other.
http://maps.familysearch.org/

[pamthomas]

The concensus of opinion seems to be that Rebecca Wales, the wife of William Motley, who was given as aged 30 in the 1841, was baptised in Boston in 1813 as Rebecca Addison, the daughter of Christopher and Sarah Addison.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=718431&iid=66881

Christopher Wales married Sarah Myland 21 May 1812 in Donington in Holland.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=543998&iid=201447

A Christopher Wales was baptised 18 November 1791 in Friskney, the baptism register stating 'son of John Addison by Rebecca Wales'.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=558448&iid=254850

John Addison and Rebecca Wales married 6 May 1794 in Freiston.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=525205&iid=244008

This would account for the (US) death certificate for Rebecca Motley saying that her father was Adison Wales. Adison wasn't actually his first name; it was an alternative surname. His first name would have been Christopher. The water is muddied by Rebecca Motley marrying with the surname of Wales - which made her name the same as her grandmother's before she married John Addison in 1794 - although she was baptised as Rebecca Addison. (We need a 'head spinning' smilie!  )

Two siblings have been found for Rebecca. Both baptised as Addison.
John Mireland (obviously a corruption of his mother's maiden name of Myland) in 1814 in Swineshead
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=783037&iid=232057
and Robert in 1820 in Algarkirk.
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=621785&iid=27297
Sadly, less than a month later Robert was buried
http://www.lincstothepast.com/Records/RecordDisplayTranscript.aspx?oid=547108&iid=27349