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Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« on: Friday 04 January 13 18:00 GMT (UK) »
My ancestor - David Colwell married Elizabeth Bleasdale

28 May 1865  at St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
David Callwell - (X), 21 Labourer Bachelor of Mount Pleasant
Elizabeth Bleasdale - (X), 19 Spinner Spinster of Atkinson St
 
Groom's Father: Maurice Callwell, Boot Maker
Bride's Father: William Bleasdale, Labourer
   
Witness: Henry Davis, (X); Elizabeth Knowles, (X)

So Elizabeth born abt 1846. The 1871 census agrees and puts her place of birth as Preston. David died 1873 and Elizabeth died 1875 aged 28 so born abt 1847. I have a newspaper article from 1874 which possibly/probably relates to her but doesn't tell us anything useful.

And that's all I have for her. I've have eliminated everyone trying to find any other record about her. She's my last dead end where I would have expected to be able to follow further back.

A fresh set of eyes would be appreciated.
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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 January 13 20:00 GMT (UK) »
I suspect this is her baptism.

Baptisms: 3 Sep 1848 St John, Preston, Lancashire, England
Elizabeth Bleasdale - Child of Margaret Bleasdale
Abode: Crown St
Occupation: -
Baptised by: J. Wilson Curate
Register: Baptisms 1848 - 1850, Page 21, Entry 166

Margaret Bleasdale went on to marry a Mark Grundy in 1850 and various children including Elizabeth are listed as Grundy in the 1851 and 1861 census.

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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 January 13 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mo.

Unfortunately I've already ruled her out. She was my last hope.  ;D

These were the three youngest children of Mark Grundy and Margaret Bleasdale. Unless it was bigamous.....and she faked her death.....or there were two of them called Elizabeth....

Marriage: 25 Jan 1868 St Peter, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Moses Brocklebank - 19 shunterman Bachelor of 36 Thomas St.
Elizabeth Grundy - (X), 20 weaver spinster of 2 Eanam
    Groom's Father: John Brocklebank, ostler
    Bride's Father: Mark Grundy, weaver
    Witness: John Loynds; Margaret Loynds, (X)
    Married by Certificate by: W. Hudson

Marriage: 9 Nov 1872 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
John Grundy - (X), 21 Weaver Bachelor of Trinity St
Ann Jane Whalley - (X), 20 Weaver Spinster of Adelaide St
    Groom's Father: Mark Grundy, Weaver
    Bride's Father: Jacob Whalley, Porter
    Witness: Moses Brocklebank; Alice Grundy
    Married by Certificate by: H. G. Youard

Marriage: 16 May 1875 St Luke, Preston, Lancashire, England
James Middleton - 20 Spinner Bachelor of 42 Deepdale Mill St
Alice Grundy - 21 Weaver Spinster of 30 Gillett Street
    Groom's Father: Jacob Middleton, deceased, Spinner
    Bride's Father: Mark Grundy, deceased, Weaver
    Witness: Daniel Caton, (X); Margaret Ann Middleton

Bigamy I can believe - but successfully getting a fake death certificate as well?! Nah. But it's incredibly believable that's the right family. Atkinson st was parallel to crown st.

There's a lot more reason to believe that's the right family - but there's no escaping the double marriage.
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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 January 13 09:04 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at this family
you probably have,

St John Preston
28th May 1867
George Bleasdale.26.bachelor,butcher of Chipping
Elizabeth Eccles,x,spinster,aged 28,of Friargate
Grooms father,late  William Bleasdale,labourer
brides father ,the late John Eccles,labourer
witness to the marriage
Henry Singleton and Alice Bleasdale,

St Bartholomew Chipping
15th May 1841
George Bleasdale
child of William and Alice
agricultural labourer
abode Chipping
possible mother Mary Martin ?

they possibly have four daughters named Alice,wonder if a couple died and they called another two Alice,a very longshot
I can only find the baptism for George and Mark
Lancashire bmd
all mothers maiden name Martin
Alice 1839,Chipping
Ellen 1840,Chipping
George 1841,Chipping
Alice 1842,Chipping
Mark 1844,Chipping
Alice 1848,Preston
Alice 1849,Preston
Elizabeth 1853,Preston
this is one family in Chipping the other is William and Savina
actualy I think this is to far fetched myself,

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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 January 13 09:23 GMT (UK) »
St Bartholomew Chipping
11th November 1838
Jane Bleasdale,illigitamate daughter of Ellen Bleasdale
Abode Hesketh Lane Chipping
17th September 1846
Elizabeth Bleasdale,
illigitamte daughter of Ellen Bleasdale
abode Chipping
1851 census
HO107/2255
William Bleasdale,54,agricultural labourer
Alice Bleasdale,48,wife
Ellen Bleasdale,25,rover in cotton mill
Henry Bleasdale,23?
Margaret Bleasdale,17,spinner
Alice Bleasdale,12,scholar
George Bleasdale,9,scholar
Elizabeth Bleasdale,4,granddaughter
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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 January 13 09:38 GMT (UK) »
Now I cant untangle them

St Bartholomew,
6th September 1824
William Bleasdale,bachelor of Little Elmridge in this parish
Alice Martin,of the village of Chipping in this parish
witness to marriage
Richard Tomlinson,
Richard Parkinson,
John Helme
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St Bartholomew
4th December 1837
William Bleasdale,of full age bachelor husbandman,of Hesketh Lane within Chipping
Mary Martin,minor,spinster of Back Lane within Chipping
Grooms father John Bleasdale,Husbandman
brides father Thomas Martin,husbandman
witness to marriage
William Woods and John Bleasdale
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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 January 13 10:52 GMT (UK) »
George Rhodes
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St Mary Lancaster
14th May 1842
George Rhodes,of full age,bachelor,farmer of Thornley in the Parish of Chipping
Ellen Lancaster,full age spinster of Bulk,
grooms father Isaac Rhodes,farmer
brides father,Richard Lancaster,farmer
witness to marriage,Nicholas Drinkall and John Becket,
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St Bartholomew,
burial,
Ellen Rhodes
wife of George Rhodes
aged 42 years
abode Giles,Thornley with Wheatley
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St Bartholomew Chipping
14th May 1868
Thomas Kenyon,full age farmer,bachelor of Bradley Hall,Thornley with Wheatley
Jane Bleasdale,full age spinster of Giles,Thornley with Wheatley
grooms father Richard Kenyon,farmer
brides father George Rhodes farmer
witness to marriage,Richard Kenyon and Alice Rhodes
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ST Bartholomew Chipping
4th May 1859
George Rhodes,53,farmer,widower of Thornley with Wheatley in this parish
Ellen Bleasdale,42,spinster of Thornley with Wheatley in this parish
Grooms father Isaac Rhodes ,farmer
brides father James Bleasdale,labourer
witness to marriage Richard Walne and James Parkinson,
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so that throws that theory out to as her being the daughter of Ellen and George Rhodes as Ellen Bleasdale names her father as James,not William,
but there stillmay be a connection,in Chipping,I just havnt seen it,
sorry
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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 January 13 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

1861 Census - Preston - 7 Moorbrook St

William Bleasdale 46 (1815) born Blackburn - Bobbin ?? factory
wife Mary 40 (1821) born Ireland, West??? (could be Westport)

Daughter Elizabeth 15 (1846) born Lancaster, Throstle spinner
Daughter Maryann 13 (1848) born Ulverston
Son John 9 (1852) born Lancaster

Boarder Mary Hart 16 (1845) born Ireland

Anc****y have them indexed as BLEASDLE and FindMyPast have them indexed as BLUNDELL

Blundell is definitely wrong, when you look at the census page it does read BLEASDLE.

Also, Henry Davis who was one of the witnesses at the marriage of Elizabeth Bleasdale, if he is the same one in my tree was a Bobbin Turner and originated from the Garstang/Catterall area, not a million miles from Lancaster?
Henry Davis also married an Irish lady so a possible connection with William`s wife?

Hope this helps or not as the case may be!!



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Re: Bleasdale in Preston. If you fancy a challenge.
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 January 13 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for looking Radcliff. That family in chipping had me going for a while as well at one point.

Barney, that one is a bit of a cat amongst the pigeons. I haven't seen that family before! I'll have a look into them.
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