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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 13 March 13 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Been looking at the New Zealand, Immigration Passenger Lists, 1855-1973.
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I have typed in Daniel and Aaron Henrickson but nothing positive yet.

I have the address of the WA BDM Registration:
Registry of Births, Deaths & Marriages
PO Box 7720
Cloisters Square
Perth  WA  6850
The Manager of Customer Services replied to my email about the 2 different Father's names on Daniel certified copy of his Marriage cert. Having Sheen on one and Ezhen on the other.
Her reply was:The Registry issues a certified copy of the marriage registration.  Unless there has been some correction done to a registration between issuing certificates, each certified copy for the same marriage should be the same.

If you have differing information on a Western Australian marriage between copies I suggest you post these documents to this office with a covering letter explaining your query.
This is what I will do.
His Naturalisation records have Aaron as his father but this also was scribed for him.

The letters were from family members who also attempted to research his Finnish family and a couple even went to Finland to try to find any family members but were unsuccessful.
I have been in touch with a member of the family who has a family website  now but still has no records of Daniel's birth place or parents and siblings still.
There is nothing in the letters that I haven't already mentioned and would just be repeating all over again.
Thank you for being supportive in my search for Daniel's past life.
Can I copy and attach copies with the different cert. marriage certs here? Father's occupation was Farmer.

On his death cert. Father documented as Aaron Henrickson too.

Stated on his naturalisation records he was in Adelaide SA for 9 months then worked for  Mr Edward Keane in WA on the Midland Railways. Mr Edward Vivian Harvey Keane bb.8.8.1844 England -d.9.7.1909 Perth WA came from SA before coming to Western Australia to give a hand in the construction of the Upper Darling Range Railways and Company Manager of Midland Railway Company which Daniel may of met him in SA.It says he worked for over 3 years on the Midland Railways possibly from Midland Junction to Walkaway, near Geraldton WA. M r Edward H Keane was a prominent Perth Business man.Consrtuction began before August 1890.
An email from Finland stated that Finns in the period 1880's often were recorded as Russians in Australian records because Finland was part of the Russian empire. Also according to ships books from Raahe and  Aland when sailed to Australia in this period it was common for seaman to desert when coming to Australia.Finnish sailors sailed on British ships especially as carpenters apparently.

There are 4 Finnish sailors documented "Extract of the book at Battye Library WA Biographical Index of South Australia Vol 2 Page 731." Arrived 1883.
1. John Henrickson b. 1842
2. Joseph Henrickson b. 1859 Norway

3.Karl Henrickson b. 1855 Russia
4.Osker Krist b. 1851 Russia
no help here.
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Velcro

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 14 March 13 00:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Velcro...

Seems we did the same thing contacting BDM WA. I'll send you a PM (Private Message) with a copy of the email I received back from them. It gives a contact name at the address you already have. I read it as they'll exchange the old marriage certificates for a scan of the marriage register entry.

Do you want me to email the State Records Office and ask if Daniel's probate is still restricted. Or do you know anyone in Perth who can drop in to the SRO.

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I was hoping that some of the family letters you mentioned were written by Daniel but obviously that's not the case. I guess the info has been gone over repeatedly.

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Here's something interesting but not really all that helpful, so feel free to skip :)

You mentioned in your latest post a Joseph HENRICKSON b.1859 in Norway who arrived in South Australia in 1883. I had a quick look and came across this...

1875 Norway Census - Hammerfest, Norway
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste.aspx?ft=1875&knr=2001&kenr=002&bnr=0161

The sixth name on the list is a "Josef HENDRIKSEN Lommijerve b.1859"

Nothing to say it's the same Joseph but this Joseph was born in Kemi, Finland. His older brother Johan was born in "Kemi i rusisk Finland", which translates as "Kemi in Russian Finland".

It seems as though there is a parish called Kemi up in north west Finland. Maybe "Koomeny" is Kemi in the north-west, not Kymi down in the south.

Also Kemi is not too far away from Brahestad/Raahe. Wonder where the Russian border was.

Raahe to Kemi - Google Maps
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0t5h/

Both of the brothers are mariners, in that they are fishermen (Fisker).

Both of the brothers are unmarried (ug)

Unfortunately their father's name is Hendrik ISAKSEN, not Aron HENRICKSON. Their father Hendrik is a day-labourer (Dagarbeider) married to Britha Grethe HANSEN.

However, living at the same address is an Aron HENDRIKSEN. He is the twelfth name on the list. He was born in Kaino, Sweden. He is a carpenter (Tømmermand) married to Grethe ARONSEN. They have two daughters, Maria and Ida.

The entire residence is occupied by Finns. The "kk" in the "Etnisitet" (ethnicity) column means both father and mother are Finnish.

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A few hits....a Swedish-born Aron. Kymi/Kemi gets a mention. Possibly a Brahestad connection. Sea-faring occupation. Josef's name ties in with your 1883 arrival info.

A few misses...no-one called Daniel. Wrong father. 1875 is right at the limit for still being at "home", although I guess technically Kemi is Josef's home, not Hammerfest.

I've had a quick look for an earlier or later census listing but there's nothing obvious. I may need to look harder.

It makes for a good read and it shouldn't be too hard to fill in the details as Lommijerve is a handy clue. I might look into it one day but ultimately it won't prove anything as the search is for someone called Daniel HENRICKSON, not Josef HENDRIKSEN.

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Beg

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #65 on: Friday 28 June 13 02:20 BST (UK) »
Dear Beg

Thank you for your on going support. We just completed a cruise to the Baltic and included Helsinki. What a disappointment that I have no hard evidence to connecting families in Finland while we were there. I keep thinking positive and have no one to look up the state records but if you want to email them please feel free to do so.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 00:50 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Found this after all this time. http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3228&p=11933&hilit=Etsi%E2%80%A6#p11933
What did you eventually sum up from our enquires for me? Parents and siblings of Daniel Henrickson/Henricsson?

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #67 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Velcro :-)

Will need to re-read the thread and all of the other notes that I have but I'm fairly sure the outcome had us none the wiser.

I wonder if any other Finnish resources have come on-line since I started that thread. Nearly a year ago! Tempus fugit :-)

Will get back to you but it may well be a few days.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Closets I found records are:
http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/519276?en+0261+kastetut+13032

Kymi - Kymmene
Christened

Link to this event [ 4035394 ]
Born / Christened    9.8.1860    19.8.1860
Village / Farm    Huruksela    Rysä
Father    Bd    Henrik    Henriksson         
Mother         Anna Maria    Sylvestersdotter         23
Child    Daniel
Godparent    Skräds    Gustaf    Gustafsson    
Godparent    Inh    Anders    Andersson    
Godparent         Anna    Samuelsdotter    
Own comment    
Original comment    
Links    SSHY - Digiarkisto
If a death record for him in Finland then not mine! But still leaves it open.
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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 29 January 14 06:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Velcro...

I've had a re-read of the many threads... whew :-)

Lots to take in but the bottom line is we're still no closer to Daniel's origins than we were a year ago.

Here are some thoughts...

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Daniel b.9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.
Son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER


In Reply #35 you say the following:

1) The father Henrik died in 1868
2) The mother Anna Maria remarried in 1875 to Tobias ERIKSSON

I agree :-) as the Church Registers covering the above death and re-marriage are free to view on-line.

You also say that at the time of the re-marriage this Daniel was still living with his mother Anna Maria. I'm fairly sure the "Household Register" which would prove/disprove this is not viewable on-line unless you are a member of the Finnish Family History Association (FFHA) a.k.a "Suomen Sukuhistoriallinen Yhdistys" (SSHY).

And finally you say that a few years after the re-marriage this Daniel moved around a bit - to Anjala in 1881, to Strömfors in 1882 and to Lapinjärvi in 1885. The first two moving records are free to view on-line but again I suspect that the third record is not viewable on-line unless you are a member of the FFHA.

Which brings me to a point I raised many months ago, namely that it's in your own interest to join the FFHA. To sort out this Daniel from Rysä you need to view the post-1870 Kymi "Household Registers" as they will show whether or not the Daniel living with his mother at the time of her re-marriage and the Daniel who leaves for Anjala in 1881 are one and the same person. These "Household Registers" are viewable online only by members of the FFHA.

Personally I think the two Daniel's are separate people. The Daniel who travels to Anjala, then on to Strömfors is Daniel HEIKINSSON. I appreciate that "Heiki" is an informal version of "Henrik" but I find it hard to believe that Daniel HENRIKSON from Rysä would change his surname to an informal HEIKINSON considering it's an official document.

Having said that, I appreciate that when arriving in Anjala the document says that Daniel HEIKINSON came from Rysä and was born in 1860. But the easiest way to sort this out would be to view the 1881 "Household Register" for Kymi. It would clearly show whether or not the traveller is Daniel, son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER... and the only way to view the "Household Register" is to join FFHA.

AUD$42-ish for one year of access to a huge number of resources.

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The thread I started on the Finnish genealogy website has an interesting lead which I didn't follow up. There is an Aron HENRIKSSON b.1838 in Kymi. He can be traced up to 1856 and then goes missing. Well worth having a second look at him, although I suspect the reason he was put to one side was (again) the necessary registers are not viewable on-line unless you belong to the FFHA.

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What you should also have a re-think about is the Y-DNA suggestion I and others have made. It really is worth your making the effort to trace and make contact with a male descendant of Daniel. This descendant's Y-DNA may not find a match in our lifetime but I would put money on it finding a male descendant of Daniel's father within half a dozen generations. Your g-g-g-g-g-genealogist-descendant will bless you for your foresight in obtaining a near-identical DNA sample of Daniel.

And more importantly Daniel's family will be found.

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The two other leads that I'll look into are a) the British Navy angle and b) Daniel's brother and father supposedly ending up in the USA. I've not really made any effort there so will see what happens.

Ever onwards :-)

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 29 January 14 07:13 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Thanks for your time and will re think what thoughts you have on Daniel.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #71 on: Friday 31 January 14 01:34 GMT (UK) »
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Daniel b.9 Aug 1860 at the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi.
Son of Henrik HENRIKSON and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER


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Daniel HEIKINSSON - moved to Anjala in 1881, to Strömfors in 1882

Hi Velcro...

Just a quick note...I've been talking to the FFHA people and, wouldn't you know it, the specific Kymi "Household Register" you need to view hasn't been put on-line. The ones either side are viewable but not the ones from 1870 to 1890. Those years are only viewable on microfiche. I'm guessing it would require a trip to Finland to view the microfiche.

Bit of a nuisance but there is a Plan B :)

I'm pretty sure you can loan the Kymi microfiche from FamilySearch. They will post the microfiche out to you but charge $5 per item. Two microfiche cover Huruksela but to be sure of finding Daniel you might need to order all of Kymi. This means ordering about a dozen microfiche, so $60-ish. Ouch!!

Bit of a nuisance but there is a Plan C :)

The Daniel HEIKINSSON who moves to Anjala in 1881 can still be found via FFHA as they have the 1881-82 Anjala "Household Registers" online in their members-only area. Finding this Daniel HEIKINSSON in the Anjala registers should be enough to prove if he is the Daniel HENRIKSON born 9 Aug 1860 on the Rysä farm in Huruksela, Kymi. The "Household Register" nearly always lists a person's date of birth.

If the Daniel HEIKINSSON in Anjala was not born on 9 Aug 1860 then you'll have to think about ordering the Kymi microfiche from Family Search.

EDIT:

There may even be a Plan D :)

One of the helpful people on the Finnish board suggested emailing the Kymi Parish office directly as they should hold all of the original registers that have been microfilmed and/or microfiched. Will think about it for a while as I don't really want some member of the church running around doing genie research. I'm sure they have more important things to do....but it is a good idea.

Regards
Beg