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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 21 February 13 02:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Velcro...

One of the posters on the Finnish group suggested exploring the Y-DNA path. This is where a living direct male descendant of your Daniel allows a fragment of his DNA to be compared to other male HENRICKSONs world-wide.

There is a DNA pattern passed from father to son which is pretty much unchanged, generation after generation. Daniel got it from his father and shares it with his brothers, all of whom passed it on to their sons who in turned passed it on to their sons etc.

If Daniel had a son, who had a son, who had a son etc. who is willing to have the DNA test he can be added to the HENRICKSON DNA Project. Who knows what will turn up.

It's highly unlikely that there will be an immediate match but once Daniel's male descendant is in the project it will be reassuring to know that a record of Daniel's DNA will be around long after you and I are dust.

HENRICKSON DNA Project
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/hendricks/default.aspx?section=yresults

As ever, there is a cost. Several hundred dollars in this instance.

But first off, do you know of a surviving male descendant who fits the bill and might be interested.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 21 February 13 02:27 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Sounds all well and good. But when it comes to that sort of money probably not.
Daniel did have 3 sons. All 3 passed on now. There are males ancestors alive from Daniel but I'm not in contact with them. I haven't come across any of late that are interested in their family tree. :(
Great idea but how do they check for Daniel's DNA? Dont know of any other Henrickson descendant out of Australia. Realise that it goes into a pool of Henrickson DNA and what if nothing comes of it? 50/50 chance. Ill keep hunting.Im surprised that after all these years I haven't come across someone researching Daniel outside of Australia.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 21 February 13 04:26 GMT (UK) »

Quote from: velcro

Great idea but how do they check for Daniel's DNA?



Hi Velcro...

Absolutely appreciate the financial side. It's not cheap by any means. Roughly A$165.

The way I think of the male DNA test is that Daniel had a mobile phone, which he got from his father. Daniel's phone number was 37 digits long. He gave each of his sons an identical mobile phone with the same 37 digit phone number. They in turn gave each of their sons an identical mobile phone with the identical 37 digit phone number. And this family tradition continued right up to the modern day. And is still carried on today.

Over the last few years people have begun compiling phone directories but not by surname. What's important is the 37 digit phone number. Everyone with the same phone number is grouped together, no matter their surname.

They are grouped together because the common 37 digit phone number means that within the last seven or eight generations everyone in the group had a single common male ancestor.

Those in the group who have already worked out their family trees can compare them with each other and hopefully find this common ancestor. If they do it means that everyone in the group, whether or not they have worked out their family tree, is directly descended from this one person.

Finally you will have two indisputable pieces of information about your Daniel. It doesn't matter if he changed his name, age, birth date, birth place, parent's names, sibling's names etc. You have his mobile phone number :) and you know the person to whom the phone originally belonged.

Unfortunately Daniel's not here to answer his phone. But there's an increasing number of people still alive who have the same phone number and are more than willing to help out.

Or at least that's the theory as I mis-understand it :)

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 24 February 13 04:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi Velcro...

Just thought you'd be interested, but don't get your hopes up :-)

I came across a Daniel born on 15 August 1860. Unfortunately he would be an ERIKSSON, not a HENRICKSON. That's assuming he took his father's surname and not the patrynomic JOHANSSON (son of Johan).

This Daniel's father was Johan ERIKSSON but he died when Daniel was eight. I'm wondering if Daniel's mother re-married. Would be nice if she did and it were to an Aron HENRICKSON.

Daniel had an older brother called Johannes b.1857. Unfortunately no Anders. Again I'm hoping for his mother's re-marriage and that he had a half-brother called Anders.

Straws >>> clutch :)

One interesting thing is that this Daniel's 1860 birth was in Tavastby, nowadays Hämeenkylä, which is about ten miles from the current Russian border (according to GoogleMaps). Close to the fourteen miles mentioned in your family story.

The Children's Book says that Daniel was confirmed in Finland in 1877 ***see below This sits okay with him being in Finland then travelling for six years before turning up in Australia in 1883.

It's worth trying to trace him a bit further but I've got a feeling there aren't any later books/registers currently available to the public. At least not without visiting the Finnish National Archives in person.

Have asked for advice from the Finnish genealogy board but their initial thought is that this Daniel is unlikely to be your Daniel. Still worth looking into I think so will do so for a little while.

Virolahti Births - 1851-1873 (Right-hand page, fourth entry down, no.43)
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/virolahti/syntyneet_1851-1873_mko48-68/245.htm

Virolahti Children's Book - 1866-1878 (Top of right-hand page)
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/virolahti/lastenkirja_1866-1878_mko29-45/399.htm

***Blifvit admitterad = Has been admitted as a member of the church.

Virolahti is one parish over from Kymi (Koomeny). Bottom left corner.
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=62

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 24 February 13 04:33 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Wont get hopes up. But you have been the only one maybe so close ??? to a lead.
If we can find that Daniel immigrated or not in Finland up to 1883 then could look a little closer.
Still hard to claim as no idea of parents or real siblings!
But maybe light at end of the tunnel and not a train! LOL!
Thanks for persisting in assisting me in my search for my ggrandfather. Much appreciate it. Gives you encouragement when someone else is sparring you on. I think everyone else has given up or doesn't care.
Look for a death record for this Daniel then we will know one way or another.
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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 26 February 13 08:19 GMT (UK) »

Quote from: Beg

Don't get your hopes up :-)

I came across a Daniel born on 15 August 1860


Hi Velcro...

Disappointment time again :)

One of the Finnish genealogists found this Daniel in the 1880 and 1885 tax censuses of Finland. Still living in the same area.

Bit of a nuisance.

Back to the drawing board.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 26 February 13 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Looking at his application for Naturalisation , which is from the National Archives of Australia.
and Stat. Declaration he was born 15 Aug 1860 Priastadt. Obituary states from the West Australia News Paper 21/22 March 1927 Daniel Henrickson of Finnish Nationality born Priastadt and on the 22nd March 1927 news clip states: born at Priastaat. (could be typo for Priastadt).
Certified copies of his marriage certificates dated 1. 28 Sep 1981 Father as Sheen Henrickson 2.
dated 20 Aug 1985 Father Ehzen Henrickson.Father being a farmer.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #61 on: Monday 11 March 13 01:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Velcro...

Still zero progress to report :)

Have been wandering through the 1860's and 1870's censuses for Raahe/Brahestad looking for signs of a Daniel or an Aron. To be honest, nothing that promising. I really do wish the Finnish government would index their genealogical resources.

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I was just wondering if you'd seen the probate file for Daniel HENRICKSON held at the State Records Office in Perth. It has a 75 year restriction but assuming probate was granted a few weeks after Daniel's death then it's possible that the 75 year restriction has been lifted in the last week or two.

Seriously doubt if the probate holds anything relating to Daniel's parents or siblings but it can't hurt to look.

If you've not seen the file I'm happy to send off an email on your behalf to the State Records Office and see what the story is regards access.

Item No. - 1938/0639
Item Title - Daniel Henrickson
Record series containing this item - 34 - FILES - PROBATE
Item Access Status - Restricted 75 years

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 13 March 13 04:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi again...

Just continuing on from my previous post (which I can no longer edit)

I sent an email off to BDM WA asking about the different names for Aaron that they came up with on Daniel's marriage certificate. The helpful person who replied said that after looking at the original marriage register she thought the name looked like Ehran, which I reckon is close enough to Aaron as makes no difference. If you consider that Daniel neither spoke, read nor wrote English then his Registrar did a reasonably good job.

If you want a scan of the original marriage register for yourself then BDM WA will send you one for free as long as you return to them the two other marriage certificates currently in your possession.

Personally I don't think seeing a scan will make that much difference but if you want I'll send you the address to which you can send the two marriage certificates.

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Really annoyed that WA marriage certificates had no requirement for details of the bridal couple's mothers. Grrrr....as they say.

What did the marriage certificate give as the occupation of the groom's father. Was it "Doctor" as in your family stories, or something else.

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You wrote in one of your earlier posts that you have some old letters from that time period. Is there any way at all that you can upload them to the net. Maybe ask for help from a local genealogy group or computer group. Possibly there's a Rootschatter living near you who can help.

I would hate for there to be something overlooked which might help in the search.

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Beg