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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #45 on: Monday 21 January 13 01:23 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

I really appreciate your help here.  Not had this much help for a long while RE: Daniel Henrickson.
Was close to giving up on him.
Q1"By "certified copies" do you mean that someone in the WA Registry office checked the marriage register, copied out the details and then typed them out onto a certificate."
"If so, I'm hoping that Sheen and Ehzen are bad transcriptions of Aaron."
A.Not sure but seems that way. Cant help there either.:-(
Both copies I inherited.
Could see if I could view the original copy of the marriage cert. Not seen as yet the original. Step 1.

How likely is it that the information of this relative/informant was accurate. Was he/she ever likely to have met and talked with Daniel.Any thoughts as to why Daniel's wife Susannah wasn't the informant.

Guess is good as your! No Idea why Susannah wasnt? Time machine would come in handy right now! LOL!
Daniel I have no letters written by him. Had a lot of trouble with English language apparently.

This is the oldest copies of Daniel's records
http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1507474&I=1&SE=1 apart from copies of marriage cert.

You'd make a great detective! Like the way you are thinking out side the circle! :-)

Like:
Quotes" Was the house possibly called Heikkilä?" and this...
In other words 14 Swedish mils is totally different to 14 British miles (about 74 miles of different :-). Learn something new every day. Didn't give it a think before.

If I did this? Who would I be asking about? Daniel??? to get the correct person or ask for Daniel Henrickson/Henrickkson??

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #46 on: Monday 21 January 13 01:35 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

From page 2.

http://koti.kapsi.fi/~perttuveikko/doku.php?id=saloinen_rk1779
Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.12.1738 Raahe (SL)
hu Beata Mårtensdr Hannila 21.2.1745 Raahe (SL)
VL 16.2.1769
son Matts Henriksson Forbus 29.1.1774 (SL)
son Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.2.1778 (SL)
dr Margareta Henriksdr Forbus 9.1.1780 (SL)
son Aron Henriksson Forbus 2.10.1783 (SL)

usually in Finland and Sweden is k not c, as in Britain

Could this be ancestors?

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #47 on: Monday 21 January 13 02:01 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: velcro
Not had this much help for a long while


Hi Velcro...

It's not so much the quantity of help but the quality... hmmmm :-)

It's still needle in a haystack for Daniel in the Finnish parish archives. May need to look further afield e.g Seamans Registers

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Henrik Henriksson Forbus 15.12.1738 Raahe
son Aron Henriksson Forbus 2.10.1783

Yes I thought of this Aron HENRIKSSON FORBUS when the Finnish board came up with Aron HENRICSSON FORSBERG. The main problem is that one is in Raahe and the other in Kymi, nearly four hundred miles apart.

Still worth keeping in mind though because their births are also fifty years apart. A lot can happen in that time.

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What did you mean by this...

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If I did this? Who would I be asking about? Daniel??? to get the correct person or ask for Daniel Henrickson/Henrickkson??

Don't quite follow what the question was.

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Beg

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #48 on: Monday 21 January 13 02:06 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

Other observations. Dan`s father came from Sweden and settled in Finland [Henrickson is a Swedish name].  This is a form of reverse migration for the time as most migration was in the reverse direction, from Finland into southern Sweden.

HENRICKSON = Swedish
HEIKKILA/ HAIKKALA  = Finnish.

Finnish (Heikkilä): from the personal name Heikki (derived from German Heinrich;  Henry) + the local ending -la, denoting someone from a household headed by someone called Heikki. This personal name was very popular during the Middle Ages, St. Henry being the patron saint of Finland.
When requesting info on Daniel do I ask about information relating to Daniel Henrickson as he was known here in Australia or is there a Finnish version of his name?
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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #49 on: Monday 21 January 13 02:10 GMT (UK) »
Dear Beg

t's not so much the quantity of help but the quality... hmmmm :-)
Very true!
We are working on it though. Can do only what we can do! LOL!
Just emailed the Finnish Institute of Migration for assistance RE: Daniel and Aaron being documented as Sailors and any other assistance.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #50 on: Monday 21 January 13 02:47 GMT (UK) »
Looked up the Institute of Migration Finland

Search results (Australian Finns database)
Daniel is registered as this was my doing. 

 Last name    First names     Year of birth
 Henrickson    Anthew      1893 
 Henrickson    Anton Victor      1883 
 Henrickson    Charles      1874 
 Henrickson    Daniel      1860 
 Henrickson    Frank      1893 
 Henrickson    John August Leonard      1903


Search results (Reference records)
   
 

 Last name    First names    Other name    Date of birth
  Henrickson    Eva      Kyräs      . .1850 
  Henrickson    Hanna      Talbakka (o.s.)      06.01.1866 
  Henrickson    Henrik      Tavajärvi      15.03.1842 
  Henrickson    Ida Johanna      *      . .9999 
  Henrickson    Kalle      Kytömäki      . .1840 
  Henrickson    Lauri Matti      *      16.04.1911 
  Henrickson    Oscar      *      24.03.1868

http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/gallery/Australia/Sekalaiset%20-%20Miscellaneous/slides/AUS_1258.html (example)
Another thing has always crossed my mind if Henrickson may of been Hendrickson pre WA??

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #51 on: Monday 18 February 13 02:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi Velcro...

Still no luck finding Daniel but here's an update anyway :-)

Lots of words so feel free to just browse.

The bottom line is there's still nothing definite.

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Minnie came across some possible candidates on a Crew Lists CD at Auckland Library.

Anders HENDRIKSON - born c.1858 in Finland - crewman Nov 1879 to Jan 1880 on the Berteaux
Andrew HENDRIKSON - born c.1857 in Finland - crewman Oct 1890 on the Recovery
Daniel HENDRIKSON - born c.1857 in Drammen, Norway - crewman Dec 1881 to Jan 1882 on the Semantha

Here are printouts of the info Minnie found on the CD...

Anders HENDRIKSON
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxq/

Andrew HENDRIKSON
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxr/

Daniel HENDRIKSON
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sxs/

It's possible Anders and Andrew are the same person. Would be even better if he was Daniel's older brother.

I asked on the European board for some help tracing the Daniel born in Drammen but there was no sign of him. Possibly Drammen was not his birthplace. Or possibly it was deliberate mis-information.

For the moment I'm turning a blind eye to the spelling of HENDRIKSON.

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If you want to pursue Minnie's info any further you're talking serious money. Basically A$40 an hour. Fortunately you can get an estimate before you commit to anything. The people doing the research are archivists at the Maritime History Archives in Newfoundland, Canada.

Maritime History Archive
Research Services
http://www.mun.ca/mha/research/rgships.php

The way it works is that the ship aboard which a sailor previously served is mentioned on the crew list. Theoretically an archivist can trace the career of a seafarer backwards step by step through a series of crew lists. Hopefully along the way there will be a mention of a specific birthplace, which you can then use to find the sailor's birth record (although it didn't seem to work in the above Drammen, Norway example).

As I read it, most crew signed on for six-monthly periods. Finding two consecutive six-monthly crewlists seems to equal one hour of research.  So to trace five years would be five hours of research....$200....ouch.

But like I said, the archivists give estimates before doing anything.

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Here's an example using two consecutive crewlists for an Andrew HENDRICKSON born c.1846/7

Andrew HENDRICKSON (third from bottom of page)

Born 1846 in Aa?
Crewman on the Olympus
Previous ship the Hengist

Crewlist of the Olympus
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syb/

and then moving backwards to his previous ship...

Andrew HENDRICKSON (no.16)

Born 1847 in Aalsund, Norway
Crewman on the Hengist
Previous ship the Loanda

Crewlist of the Hengist
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syc/

In theory I should now be able to go to the 1846-47 birth registers for Aalsund (nowadays Ålesund) in Norway and find the birth register entry for this Andrew... (and yes I did try and no I didn't find it :-)

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Like I said earlier it's very expensive to trace further any of the sailor's found by Minnie. But if you were going to I'd suggest either Anders or Andrew. But remember there's no proof that either of them are the brother of your Daniel. There's just as good a chance that they are simply namesakes.

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #52 on: Monday 18 February 13 02:31 GMT (UK) »
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And continuing the spending money theme...

The Finland Family History Association have digitised and put on-line the 1863-1888 Moving In/Out records for Kymi/Kymenne. These are records of anyone who moved into or moved out of the Kymi parish in that period. If your Daniel's family ever lived in Kymi (as you seem to think) there's a possibility they are mentioned in these records. If they were it should then lead to a residence, which might then lead to birth dates and places.

The catch is that the records are only available to members of the above mentioned FFHA. Annual subscription is $A35.

Again, there's no proof that your Daniel's family ever lived in Kymi/Kymenne, apart from Daniel maybe saying something which sounded like Koomeny. So it may well be a waste of money....although the money supports the FFHA so it's not really wasted.

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I've mentioned the Sailor's Rooms of Finland database before. It's held by the Genealogical Society of Finland but is only accessible on-line for members. I've no idea whether it would be of any use but you have to explore all avenues if you can.

Practitioners of professions:
Sailor rooms in various registers and other lists
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0syd/

Annual subscription to GenSocFin is $A50
http://www.genealogia.fi/liityjaseneksi.html

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Am still slowly browsing through parish records. I've looked at all of the birth registers for the August 1860 period with no success. I'm now checking through the Children's Books (Lastenkirja) covering the same period. It takes roughly a week to browse through a Children's Book and as there are about 550 parishes I should be finished in about 550 weeks time...somewhere around August 2023...hmmmmmmm

:)

Regards
Beg

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Re: Daniel Henrickson
« Reply #53 on: Monday 18 February 13 06:46 GMT (UK) »
Dear Begs

Thanks so much for all the suggestions. You may realize why Daniel is my "brickwall" ancestor.
Wont give up on him and maybe one day some light may shine and find my long lost relatives?
Dark horse Daniel!
On his Naturalization records say he was a citizen of Finland.
Priastadt written by a scriber as place of Birth but who knows? English spelling not Finnish spelling ????
Much appreciate your help.
Cheers
Velcro