Daniel Henrickson

[BegClonrode ....]

Hi again Velcro...

LDS has indexed the record you mentioned...

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB9F-G7Z

Also the Genealogical Society of Finland website I mentioned earlier...

http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski?fi+t4035394

I was trying to find it when browsing the Anjala birth registers but had no luck.

Will have another look because it must be there somewhere :-)

The birth may have been recorded in a later month.

Aug 1860 - Anjala Births
http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/anjala/syntyneet_1860-1880_mko1-4/3.htm

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You're right. Dotter is daughter, -sson is son. So Anna Maria SYLVESTERDOTTER is Anna Maria, daughter of Sylvester.

Dotter is often just shortened down to "dr" e.g Anna Maria SYLVESTERDR

Regards
Beg

[ShaunJ]

According to earlier posts on various sites, the marriage certificate shows the father's name as "Sheen" - is that right? Is it possible to post a scan of that part of the certificate?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,433379.0.html

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/soc.genealogy.surnames.global/wqhlF3z9U5M

[velcro]

Hi

Thanks for refreshing past posts.
Since then have been going in circles and has been my challenge again to solve Daniel's Finnish past.(if possible).
I have now certified copies of his marriage certificate to Susannah Page 17 Sep. 1889 Williams Bridge Western Australia. No definite records as yet from Daniel's life in Finland to his marriage in WA.
1.28/9/1981 Cert. Marriage states Daniel's father as Sheen Henrickson.
2.20/8/1985 Cert. Marriage states Daniel's father as Ehzen Henrickson.
3. Death Cert. States Aaron as Daniels father.(I know that this relative wasn't 100% sure on his background but what was passed on to them from family)Mother: Eliza unknown
4.Cert copy of his death cert.Daniel's place of birth Rierstart Finland. another source states Priastadt.Finland.

He applied for Australian Naturalization in 1927 which he gained.He has a person scribe for him as he had difficulty writing and speaking English.Very little was the answer to his application to writing and speaking English.
His birthplace and Nationality: his own statement as he says all papers and records were lost at Sea.(family story he was shipped wrecked off NZ on way to South Australia)
Apparently very loyal to The British during the war.
He applied to be Naturalized for the aged pension.
Thought he was a naturalized British subject prior 1927 but wasn't so applied 1927.Application approved.
Other sources with assisted research is possibley:
Daniel b. 9 Aug Huruksela Rysa parents: Henrik Heikki Henrikkson Rysa 1833-1868 and Ann Maria Syvesterdotter 1837 -1896.Kalamies Farm Anjala Finland.
Do I take this is he and move on? Or keep digging for further records that cant prove this to be incorrect?

Going through very old letters (ones on paper) if he was a sailor as such would there be records of him in the Finnish Seaman's Mission and The Missions to Seaman St Michael Paternoster Royal College Hill London? Apparently was in London 4 yrs???

Cheers
Velcro

[BegClonrode ....]

Daniel b. 9 Aug Huruksela Rysa parents: Henrik Heikki Henrikkson Rysa 1833-1868 and Ann Maria Syvesterdotter 1837 -1896.Kalamies Farm Anjala Finland.

Do I take this is he and move on? Or keep digging for further records that cant prove this to be incorrect?

Hi again Velcro...

Before you accept the above Daniel as your Daniel you should first take a look at the relevant Rippikirja (Communion Book) for Kymi, which covers Huruksela. It would need to cover the 1857 marriage and the 1860 birth.

Finding the family is the least you should do before you accept this Daniel as, for all we know, he may have died an early death which would have been noted in the Communion Book.

Or he may have been an only son meaning there is no older brother Andrew (Anders), which would also have been noted.

Unfortunately the relevant Communion Book has yet to be digitised. And it's actually two Communion Books that you need to view.  Here is a link to the microfilm list. You somehow need to view I:13 and I:15 found on rolls TK 833 and TK 834

http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=FILMS&ID=261&TYPE=HTML&LANG=EN

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I don't know if you're interested but if you're anywhere near a LDS Family History Centre you could always have LDS post the microfilms out to you. You can order them online and you only pay for postage (about A$7.00 per item). You'd want to order Film 58322 which contains I:13 and Film 58323 which contains I:15

Hope the link works...

http://tinyurl.com/b5dpdjt

If not, go to https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search and enter 58322 into the Film Search.

You might also want to have a look at the following microfiche which cover Huruksela over the same time period. The Pre-confirmation Records (Lastenkirja) detail the children of the parish.

http://tinyurl.com/algv5r5

Again, if the link doesn't work go to https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search and enter 6363980 into the Film Search.

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Having said all that, personally I wouldn't bother tracing this Daniel until you're running out of things to do :-)

Mainly because on his naturalisation papers your Daniel says his father's name is Aaron. It really can't be clearer than that.

He also says he was born in Priastad, which I'd put money on being Brahestad.

So that's zero for three for Daniel, son of Henrik (not Aaron), born in Huruksela (350 miles away from Brahestad), on 9 Aug 1860 (not 15 Aug 1860)

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At age 14yrs Daniel left Finland with his older brother and sailed to England

If he arrived in Australia in 1883 (aged 23) having spent two years in NZ and four years in England doesn't that mean he left home aged 17 years. Or do you have family history which says he was 14 when he left home.

Regards
Beg

[velcro]

Dear BegClonrode

Thanks for sparring me on as I'm not ready to give up on my ggrandfather yet.
If there are persons out there able to access these records and do a lookup would be very grateful.

You somehow need to view I:13 and I:15 found on rolls TK 833 and TK 834

http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=FILMS&ID=261&TYPE=HTML&LANG=EN

I reside in Australia so don't think they will be available? Anyone that is comfortable to do a lookup next time they visit their LDS centre then could you look this up for me please?
Would the film be translated to English?
Your sites worked and will read thoroughly tomorrow.Thanks

Did this and this worked too! Typed in surname search- do I type Henrickson in with this spelling?
Also f the link doesn't work go to https://www.familysearch.org/catalog-search and enter 6363980 into the Film Search. It did.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp
Didn't know these were available online.I have a couple of copies I posted away for. This was the only lead I had on him other than family stories and there is a handful of those.
Family story that he left when 14yrs of age. Others didn't have the access to his Naturalization records so sums weren't done.
May of left his village home at 14 yrs of age and moved elsewhere  in Finland then started his journey  at 17 out of Finland for what ever reason.Adventure, work ??Family stories. I'll share them another  day or next email?
So where and what am I looking for in the microfilm? Daniel Henrickson on the microfilm records 1860.

Cheers
Velcro

[ShaunJ]

Just a thought - if he was born in 1860 and wanted to make sure that he qualified for his old age pension, why wait till 1927 to apply for naturalisation? If that was true, he would have been 65 in 1925.

Per the Feb 1938 death announcement http://tinyurl.com/9wc5pgg , he was then aged 85 which suggests he was born circa 1862,  which would tie in better with the story of him leaving Finland at 14, spending 4 years in London, 2 years in NZ, arriving SA in 1883. - OOPS  1852. Doesn't make any sense!

Is the Gert Henrickson pictured here one of the family?
http://www.boddington.wa.gov.au/history

[velcro]

Dear ShaunJ

It was stated in the Naturalization records that he previously applied many years ago pre 1927 he applied for the Naturalization but didn't get response or he did not respond. Misplaced the paperwork.
His wife or someone must of made them aware he was able to get the age pension so do so had to be an Australian citz. For some reason he thought he was a British subject??? He was old enough to apply for it and was granted it as well as being Naturalized.
Why do you think he is my brickwall. Nothing makes much sense with his statements and I have about 6 different family stories and they dont make sense either. My mystery man!
Yes his daughter. Gertrude Emmeline "Gert".Gert Henrickson, Martha Farmer, Pearl Milbourne, Eda Farmer, all Daniel's dtrs.
Time spent coming to Australia is what was Daniel's recollection and was stated in his Naturalization records.

http://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/scripts/Imagine.asp?B=1507474&I=1&SE=1
Cheers
Velcro

[BegClonrode ....]

Unfortunately the relevant Communion Book has yet to be digitised.

Hi again Velcro...

My apologies. The relevant Communion Books have been digitised by The National Archives of Finland (Arkistolaitos).

Here is the entry for Henrik HENRIKSON (1833-1868) and Anna Maria SYLVESTERSDOTTER b.1837

Pää- ja rippikirjat 1860-1870 (I Aa:11)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fetch_lqjpg.ka?kuid=4459203

Their child Daniel HENRIKSON b.9 Aug 1860 is listed in the Children's Book. This Book lists the children who have yet to be confirmed, which usually happens mid-teens.

Lastenkirjat 1860-1872 (I Ab:5)
http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fetch_lqjpg.ka?kuid=4461417

Daniel's name is crossed out which usually implies the child/person has died. He has no notations so I'm guessing he died in the first year of his life.

As their is no date of death mentioned I'm asking on a Finnish genealogy forum for an informed opinion as opposed to good old kiwi guesswork. Will get back to you anon.

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Am still looking for Daniel. Very elusive :-)

Regards
Beg

[velcro]

Dear Beg

If we can narrow down out options then maybe we can find Daniel's roots. As stated before my Mystery man!
If only I asked when I was younger but I don't think his children really new the truth behind his Life before Australia as there are about a handful of stories of his travels to Australia.

Thank you for being interested in my research to uncover Daniel's past. Keep fingers crossed.
Maybe crossed out not cause of death but maybe migrated?
I have been passed on info stating a Daniel Henrickson b, 9 Aug 1860 migrated to Kymi to Anjala 6 Nov 1881. From Ajala to Ruotsinpyhtaa (Stromfors) 1882.

Daniel Henrickson parents Henrick Henricksson Rysa and Anna Maria Sylvesterdotter
Farmer hand Daniel moved from Svensby Muckis (Stromfors) 9 Nov 1885 in order to go to the Lapptrask now Lapinjarvi.
Stomfors and Lapptrask are near the Rysa farm and also Kalliokoski Hortola.
He is not incoming to Lapptrask 1885 or 1886. No more records of him.

Anna Maria Sylvesterdotter moved to Lil Tavastia Kymi Ca. 1868 after the death of Henrick Henrickson. She then remarried farmer Topias Eriksson 1875 Daniel her son still lives in the house.
Anna b. 24 Dec 1837 Anjala d.18 Mar 1896 Kymi Kalliokoski Hortola
2nd marriage: 31 Oct 1875 son of Erik- Topias Erikinpoika Hortola b. 8 Nov 1882 Kymi Kalliokoski
They lived in Kymi Kalliokoski farm Hortola. Topias was alive in year 1899 and lived in Kymi as a farmer.Also in Lil Tavastila near Kalliokoski a child born and named Alma Mathilda.

Not sure if this a the same family if so would be this Daniel Henrickson's step brother?
Matts b.27 Jan 1861
Ch.29 Jan 1861
Village: Huruksela
Farm/house Name: Rysa
Father: Henrik Henrickson
Mother Saara Thomasdotter

But still not convinced. What do you make of it?
Cheers
Velcro