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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 31 December 12 17:02 GMT (UK) »
If using a  certain site try MALL

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 ::) You could be right but it is hard to tell.

HO107 piece 732 folio 13 page 18

William 30 yes
Emma 23 no
George 1 yes

Anyhow, it would be best to get the birth certificate to be sure of the parents and that might help with an address.

William is not born in county, Emma and George are yes?
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Pelly/Pelley/Kingsbury/Challis/Nalder/Rochester/Raydenbow

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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 31 December 12 17:22 GMT (UK) »
1871 in Stratford West Ham

Emmeline N Mott widow head 53 Ladies School b London Middx
Alice E Mott dau 18 unm assistant b Islington

3 boarders and governesses.

The other Emma Mott was born in Lambeth.

Working backwards from there.....


Just for added info:

Mar 1853     Islington    1b   194
MOTT    Alice Elizabeth       

Milly
McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 31 December 12 17:52 GMT (UK) »
Thinking about the marriage witnesses..

Sarah Pond Bird
widow, late of 76 Daneville Road, Camberwell
Died 18 Nov 1881
Probate 13 Dec 1881
Estate £330 17s 6d
 
And 1881 Census
76 Daneville Road
Sara Bird Aged 71 Head (widow) Retired Waistcoat maker  born Essex, Hornden
Elizabeth Mot aged 61 Sister (unmarried)  occ: ditto  born Essex, Hornden
RG11 / 673 / 139 / 67


and in 1841
Horndon on the Hill, Essex
All born in county
John Mott      age 77  tailor
Alice Mott           26
Harriott Mott   22
Thomas Mott   23   journeyman
Elizabeth Mott   21
and
Sarah Bird         31
Alfred              10
Walter              2
Edgar              6m

Could William be the brother/son of this family?

Milly
McBride (Monaghan, Manchester), Derbyshire (Bollington,Cheshire), Knight (Newcastle,Staffs), Smith (Chorley, Lancs & Ireland), Tipladay (Manchester & Yorkshire) ,Steadman (Madeley,Shropshire), Steele (Manchester,Glasgow), Parkinson (Wigan, Lancashire), Lovatt, Cornes & Turner (Staffs) Stott (Oldham, Lancs). All ended up Ardwick, Manchester
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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 31 December 12 18:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi following Sarah Bird in 1851 she is a Pond, Widow occ Nurse b Horndon at St Georges Hospital HO107/1478/650/13, Elizabeth and an Alice M Mott plus an Alfred J Bird are visitors to a Edmund and Maria Atchison HO107/1566/391/20 in 1861 Elizabeth and Sarah on RG09/360/70/3 and 1871 RG10/727/32/12
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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 31 December 12 19:11 GMT (UK) »
1861 - again in Stratford

Emmeline Mott    43 - widow, teacher
Margaret Benny    59 - visitor
Cara Marshall    23 - teacher
Emmaeline S Mott  12 daughter b Islington
Ann Bennerwith    22 - servant
   
RG 9 / 1055 / 25 / 45

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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 16:55 GMT (UK) »
1881 census 25 Romford Road
Emmeline 65 Governess school Lambeth

1891 25 Romford Road

Emmeline 75 widow school teacher Lambeth
Emmeline Warner 42 wid
Herbert Warner 9 grandson Stoke Newington

1872 West Ham marriage for an Emmeline Mott

St.Mary Stoke Newington

Herbert Warner born 14/1/1882 bapt. 12/2/1882
Parents Emmeline Sarah & Arthur Richard Warner Grocer address SN.

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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Re: Stuck in my tracing roots- can anyone help please?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 17:12 GMT (UK) »
1841 census Newhouse Farm Stanford Rivers Essex

John Mott 60 Farmer
Ann 55
William 30
Caroline Bird 18 FS  all born in the County

Jennifer
Stevens /Godfrey /Rudgley /Claridge/ Gipson /George /Bliss
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