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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Oops, I thought when you said for children of Joseph and Harriet "None listed on 1841 census" it meant you had them in that year. Maybe you did but didn't look at the image -- that's where it gives his occupation. He's in St Margaret With Bishops Fee, Leicestershire, with Harriet, in 1841 -- aged 33 (1808), name spelled correctly at Anc'y.

I'm glad the bits and pieces I posted matched up with what Mike was digging up, too.

It was the complete absence of a death for Joseph in England (searching the index by every surname starting with Scul, even) that made me look abroad; tried NSW Australia on a whim first because it's easy, then just searched for the name at FS. Fortunately it was not the world's most common name! although it did get spelled a few ways in the US.

A bit more -- the US 1880 census is free at Anc'y and shows Ida Sculthorpe, a worker in a woolen mill, parents born in England, in Philadelphia. Here she is:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MWJG-LH9
I wonder whether this is her in 1900 -- the only Ida in Philadelphia born 1857-59 with parents born in England:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M377-LPB
... except that one was supposedly married in 1874 and had a 26-yr-old son by 1900 ...

Brother John T had died, and that leaves Henry ... but I'm not seeing any other mention of him at FS. Aha, no, he is Harry in 1920, born c1865 in Pennsylvania, with wife Clare and parents born in England:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6YG-3HV
but he's 55 at that point so any kids would have flown. ... Here's 1910, with a niece:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MG7W-45X

Abigal Sculthorpe died in 1876 in Philadelphia (also of TB) and was recorded as widowed (and born in Germany):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/J69D-HR7
And I think Joseph's death in 1871 may have been misrecorded as James Sculthorp:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JKQ1-GZJ
-- occupation Trimmer, born England, died of phthisis, resident in Germantown which I saw on one of the records I linked to earlier, buried in Franklin cemetery as was Abigal (images are viewable if you register at FS and sign in).

(Tuberculosis did "run in" families, as it was infectious -- in my gr-grfather's family, his brother, first wife, eldest daughter and niece, that I have investigated so far, and I suspect others, died of phthisis -- and when I learned that, it proved to be the only true thing he ever said about his family in England, once he came to Canada: that they were "wiped out by a plague".)


They were fun to track down on a cold and lazy new year's eve day here, and you're welcome! Nearly 3 hours to go til midnight here in central Canada now, so it's nearly time to order up some pizza. Happy new year!
HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?

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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 14:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janeycanuck
Happy New Year to you
Thanks so much for following all this up - its all very interesting 
I did quite a bit of checking on FS last night and found some of what you had referenced as it helps to get a handle on it all
When I next go to our library I may be able to access some of the original images which would be good and there could well be other records I can get at which would also be helpful now that the background is established - can't do a lot in an hour at a time and like you I'm afraid I don't go in for paid sites any more now that the bulk of my research is done as its too costly

Many many thanks for all this, it is very much appreciated
I will now attempt to put it all together
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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 15:04 GMT (UK) »
For those images -- at familysearch, all you have to do is register (for free, and if you're like me you don't exactly give all your real personal details when you sign up for things on line!) and sign in, and then you can access many original images, including some US censuses, and all the death records I referred to here.

(I do generally keep a minimum UK paid sub somewhere, but not for records outside the UK -- all my own grandparents were born in England and immigrated to Canada, and if you check my sig line you will see they keep me busy enough. ;) )
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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 08 January 13 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Greeting’s Again …….SC.

Parish Marriage Registers read thus :~
St: Margaret’s Parish Church. Leicester.

1832.

Marriage Register Entry No’. 722.
.
Joseph Sculthorpe Bachelor of this Parish.
Harriet Cooper Spinster of this Parish.
Married in this Church by Licence.
This Fourteenth day of June
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Two.
by Me :~ T Bannaman Curate
In the Presents of :~
Richard Stringer , John Stringer  ( Church wardens )
Both signed by own signatures

Extra Information via Bonds :~

Approved & Granted 14th June 1832.

SCULTHORPE Joseph. Of St: Margaret’s Parish.
Bachelor. Aged. 24.
COOPER Harriet. Of St: Margaret’s Parish
Spinster Aged. 22.
Marriage to take place at St: Margaret’s Church.
NO securer of the Bonds given.

1834.
Entry No'. 356.

William Sculthorpe Bachelor of this Parish.
Maria Flowers Spinster of this Parish.
Married in this Church by Licence.
This Twenty Third  day of October
One Thousand Eight Hundred and Thirty Four.
by Me :~ T Bannaman Curate
Both signed by own signatures
In the Presents of :~
T. Flowers
J. Sculthorpe.

Extra Information via Bonds :~
Approved & Granted 21st October 1834.

SCULTHORPE William. Of St: Margaret’s Parish.
Bachelor. Aged. 23..
FLOWERS Maria. Of St: Margaret’s Parish
Spinster Aged. 23.
Marriage to take place at St: Margaret’s Church.
NO securer of the Bonds given.


MIKE. …….. 
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

Researching :-

Isle of Wight.          Oxfordshire / Warwickshire.

Cassell.                   Powers. 
Draper.                   Hirons.
Combs.                   Botts.
Stallard.                 Hall.


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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 09 January 13 01:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much Mike for looking up the extra details on those marriages
Have now found a chr for Maria Flowers with father Thomas in 1811 so a big help

Many thanks, SC

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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 10:42 BST (UK) »
Hi.
I came across this record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V261-57J
of the marriage of William Sculthorpe Jr to Annie Marston Boulter in Philadelphia, PA on 14 May 1884.

William was the brother of my great-great-grandmother, Lavinia Sculthorpe, who married Charles Joseph Willey in Leicester in 1857.

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Re: Marriage and Christening Look-ups Leicester - SCULTHORPE
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 24 April 13 14:21 BST (UK) »
That was certainly a good find -- William Sculshoupe + Aunie Morstan Beulter!

It's been a long time so I have kind of forgotten the thread ... so that's William the son of Maria Flowers and William Sculthorpe, William Sr him being the brother of Joseph / son of Thomas. Maria, annuitant, and children Lavinia and William are in the 1851 census in Leicester St Margaret.

So you guys are cousins? :)

HILL, HOARE, BOND, SIBLY, Cornwall (Devon); DENNIS, PAGE, WHITBREAD, Essex; BARNARD, CASTLE, PONTON, Wiltshire; SANKEY, HORNE, YOUNG, Kent; COWDELL, Bermondsey; COOPER, SMITH, FALLOWELL, WILLEY, Notts; CAMPION, CARTER, CRADDOCK, KENNY, Northants; LITTLER, CORNER, Leicestershire; RUSHLAND, Lincolnshire; MORRISON, Ireland; COLLINS, ?; ... MONCK?