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Baptism= Alfred Ford
« on: Sunday 30 December 12 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Any info gratefully received. Alfred Ford born approx 1818. On most of his census returns from 1841 to 1891 ( died 1894) he states he was born in Camberwell, Surrey. He was a Surgeon and gives his fathers name as Richard Ford ( gentleman) on his marriage cert in 1839. The name Napier is also associated with him, but how or why, I have not been able to find out  :-\

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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 December 12 15:26 GMT (UK) »
You could try FreeREG, as there are a couple of Richard Ford's born around the right time for Alfred's father, and on the 1841 census there is a Richard Ford b 1776, wife Sarah b1791 children Sarah 1811, Florence 1825, Alexander 1823, and Frederick 1827. Alfred could have fitted in between Sarah and Florence, but of course he had married by then. All living in Richmond.
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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 December 12 16:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a bulk christening in 1837at St Mary Abbotts Kensington parents Richard & Sarah-fathers occ Law Genealogist.

Names tie in with the Richmond family paco has found and they include an Alfred  :) 
1841 census has his occupation as Genealogist, none of the family were born in the county.

 
27th December 1837 - Abode Ladbrooke Terrace.
Sarah Ann
Ellen Matilda
Margaret Louisa
Richard Henry
Alfred
Benjamin Alexander
Florence Lucy
Frederick Augustus

Possible deaths  for Richard & Sarah
March qtr 1842 -  Ford    Richard        Richmond    4   289
March qtr 1844  Ford    Sarah        Richmond Sry    4   289  wrong one age 21 as per burial
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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks for both replies. I had been aware of the family on Ancestry that you both speak of but without anything concrete I'm not sure. I had tracked the marriage of Frederick Augustus Ford in 1848 who was then an Architect and his father Richard, occupation Lawer as well as the 1844 marriage of Benjamine Alexander occ ( I could not make it out) father Richard described as Gent. Seems funny that all the other children had a second name except Alfred, maybe this is where the name Napier comes in but being older he could object to it being on the record.

Would someone that was a surgeon back then had to of gone to University? Would there be any records of Medical school where I'm assuming that his father would of paid for him to attend?


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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 17:00 GMT (UK) »
as well as the 1844 marriage of Benjamine Alexander occ ( I could not make it out)

Chemist & Druggist  :)

I wonder if the Royal College of Surgeons could help. 

He certainly qualified quickly - born c1818 and practicing (as per marriage) in 1839.  ;D
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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 17:59 GMT (UK) »
The family seem to start calling themselves Napier-Ford around the time of his second marriage. Maybe it was a status thing. None of them seem to have been christened using Napier in their name.

I see he was bankrupt just before his death.

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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Rosie. Where did the info come from that he was bankrupt please?

On the death cert of Alfred he is registered as Alfred Napier Ford. The Informant was his eldest son Francis (from his first marriage) I believe this name may go back a generation or so and is a middle name of Alfred. Francis records his name on the cert just as Ford.

Alfreds 2nd wife, Florence Selwyn (nee) Drew was living on own means in 1901 with a parlour maid, housemaid, Governess ( domestic) and cook + various family members and several visitors. In the 1911 census she was still living on private means but she was a visitor so I don't know how many servants she may of had. She died in 1928 and the index of wills/probate state her effects to be worth 4k +, so maybe she had money in her own right?

I could only find the baptism of 1 of their children, that was Ida Jessie in 1893. The name Napier-Ford seems to have become double barrelled then.

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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 02 January 13 00:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Notes and Queries 1909

"Ford Family and Arms. To which family of Ford does the crest of a lion rampant and a demi-lion rampant Ealing?

I shall be glad if anyone can give me the pedigree of the family of Richard Ford, genealogist, born in or about 1776 (probably at Somerset). He died at the Vicarage, Kew in 1842, having previously resided at Worcester Park House Surrey and 5 Ladbrooke Terrace, Nottinghill. He had a large family.

My grandfather Dr. Alfred Ford had the pedigree when he was living at Pimlico about 1856.

Please reply direct.

Arthur Napier-Ford
Homestead ?xondge Road Surbiton"


http://www.archive.org/stream/s10notesqueries12londuoft/s10notesqueries12londuoft_djvu.txt

Also worth checking Notes and Queries for Somerset and Devon as Arthur may have given further information in that source.

Confirming some of the information already given and adding a bit more

March quarter 1842
Richmond registration district
Richard Ford
Volume 4 Page 289

This registration district would cover Kew.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/richmond1.html

1841 census HO107 1075 Bk17 Folio 19
Vicarage Kew Surrey
Richard Ford 65 Genealogist
Sarah Ford 50
Sarah Ford 30 ind
Florence Ford 16
Alexander Ford 18
Frederick Ford 14
One female servant
No-one born in county

London Gazette 1844

http://www.london-gazette.co.uk/issues/20338/pages/1427

Benjamin Alexander Ford married in 1844 at St George Bloomsbury. He was tried at the Old Bailey in 1846 for fraud and was sentenced to be transported for seven years. He was not transported and was sentenced again at the Old Bailey for a similar offence in 1849 this time to be transported for 10 years.

http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-1526-18460817&div=t18460817-1526#highlight
http://www.oldbaileyonline.org/browse.jsp?id=def1-412-18490101&div=t18490101-412#highlight


1851 census HO107 1857 folio 604
Portland Convict Prison Dorset
Alexander Ford 29 Prisoner Married Druggist Bath Somerset

He was transported later that year to Tasmania

http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/om7567

Florence Lucy may also have been born in Bath. On the 1851 census she is a visitor. Florence Lucy married George Pearson in Hampshire in 1852 and lived thereafter in Lancashire.


Regards

Valda
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Re: Baptism= Alfred Ford
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 02 January 13 08:10 GMT (UK) »
I would suggest that you look at The Times newspaper, that is where I found the bankruptcy.  There is also The Times (London, England), Tuesday, Aug 25, 1885; pg. 1; Issue 31534.
Category: Classified Advertising  when he changes his name to Napier Ford  :)


The notice about bankruptcy was
'Queen's Bench Division.'
The Times (London, England), Friday,  May 06, 1892; pg. 13; Issue 33631.

In the same paper there are also birth notices for one of his children and mention of his second marriage.


Rosie



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