Charles Roberts of Leeds

[kglm]

I am looking for information about the parents and grandparents of Charles Roberts, born Leeds 1861, died Leeds 1905, and who was a founding member of the Independent Labour Party.

What (I think) I know so far:

Father: John Roberts born 1819 London, bootmaker
Mother: Mary Whitaker born 1822 Leeds (I have details of her parents)
Married 30/9/1841 Kirkstall
Deaths: Unknown

Grandfather: Edward Roberts (as named on certificate of above marriage)

The main problem getting any further is that the names are very common and I cant be sure what information is correct.

[CaroleW]

The 1871 has only one entry for a Charles Roberts b Leeds in the timescale

born 1861 - parents Joseph & Ann

If his assumed parents married in 1841 - Charles was born 20 yrs after they married.

Who did Charles marry and what is the name of the father on his marriage cert

[keyboard86]

Hi this looks to be the family in 1871:-

John Roberts 52 Widower occ Boot & Shoemaker b Middlesex, London
Edward 26
Frances A 19
Alfred 15
William H 13
Charles 12
Ernest 9
Walter 11 months Grandson
All children born Leeds
Residing at Florist Street, Leeds
Census Ref RG10/4563/127/41

Likely death of Mary, Mary Roberts March qtr 1871 Leeds 9b 326 aged 50

Will come back to 1861, as hard to detect?

1851 Census

John Roberts 32 occ Cordwainer b Chelsea, Middx
Mary 30 b Leeds
Susannah 3 b Leeds
Residing at 11, Harlands Court, Leeds
Census Ref HO107/2321/1073/23

Edward Roberts aged 6 is with his Grandparents William & Susan Whitaker at 1, Little Moor Street, Leeds Census Ref HO107/2321/1074/24

Susannah Roberts marries a Watson Hallewell March qtr 1871 Leeds 9b 337
Keyboard86

[Pels.]

Will come back to 1861, as hard to detect?

Some of the books for Leeds in 1861 are missing :

3388    West Yorkshire    Leeds    West Leeds (3)    Leeds NW Ward    M

At the moment it looks as though the family could have been in the ones affected - I can't find them either, keyboard ?

Kind regards,

Pels.

[keyboard86]

Hi Pels, thanks for that, 1881 is also a no no for family, any chance?!
Keyboard

[Pels.]

I am looking for information about the parents and grandparents of Charles Roberts, born Leeds 1861, died Leeds 1905

This is the nearest death, does it look right :

Death, Dec qtr 1904
Charles Roberts, age 42   
Leeds, Vol 9b, Page 325

Hi Pels, thanks for that, 1881 is also a no no for family, any chance?!
Keyboard

Nothing, neither can I find him in 1901 - have you had any luck ?

Pels.

[keyboard86]

Hi again, in the case of Charles, if the correct one he ups his yob to 1861 if I recall?

Keyboard

[Jay55]

Charles (20yrs) married Annie Elizabeth Townsend (19 yrs) at Leeds Parish Church on 8/5/1881.
Both residing Armley.
Charles: Occ: stuff finisher. Father's name - John Roberts, bootmaker
Annie: No occupation Father's name - John William Townsend, millwright
Witnesses: Alfred Roberts (brother) Ada Blackburn (Alfred's future wife)

Alfred & Ada were married at St Mary the Virgin, Hunslet on 23/6/1883

[Pels.]

I would imagine you'll have this, but because it's turned up :

Hi Pels, thanks for that, 1881 is also a no no for family, any chance?!
Keyboard

In 1891 his occupation is Dyer's Labourer, hopefully this should be him, keyboard :

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQFN-ZC5

Pels.