birth /baptisim

[susan50]

hi, i am looking for the  birth and baptisim of my grandmother mabel price born 1894 mother emily price, it is possible she was born in a workhouse as was her brother thomas in 1897. on the census her place of birth is gloucester.
thanks sue

[CCRAIL]

Hi
The following may help you find the info.

http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/

And/Or

http://www.freebmd.org.uk

This has a few Mabels in Glos and if you also do a search for Thomas you will find some cross matches I think.  Barton Regis area came up as an example.

Hope this helps
ccrail

[RCB]

Where are they in the 1901 and 1911 census Susan, because if they are in another county Gloucester could refer to the whole county not the city, and sometimes people aren't too sure about where they were as infants especially if the family moved around.  People on river barges or involved in building moved on all the time.

[CaroleW]

Is she the 1901 entry shown as the adopted dtr of Charles & Esther Bartlett?  If so - she is shown as 9yrs old so birthyear earlier than 1894

[trish1120]

Or are Mabel 1894 and Thomas 1898 under KING in 1901?
Mother Emily born c 1873 Newham, Glous?
Marriage to Frances Charles King Reg June 1901 Glous?

Trish

[susan50]

yes it is the mabel king born 1894 living with emily king on the 1901 census in glos i am looking for i don't think she would have been registered as king as her brother thomas born 1898 was registered price and was born in a glos workhouse emily did seem to move around as she was working as a servant in islington in 1891, then thomas was born in a glos workhouse in1898. she was still in glos in1901 were she married francis charles king. in 1904 they were in   lambeth london were she had two sons charles king b 1904 and william 1905, in 1909 she had a daughter norah king  b 1909 in a  sheffield workhouse yorkshire then she was back in a glos workhouse in 1911 she then remarried in 1916 glos. i also think francis charles king changed his name around as on the sheffield workhouse records he is recorded as charles  and on mabels marriage certificate 1918 it is charles william king deceased,i have numorous birth certificate for mabel but as yet unable to find her birth record i was hoping to find a baptisim .
thanks sue

[scuda-j]

Using the Glos BMD site for which Victor posted the link: http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/MainMenu.aspx I see that Thomas Price's birth was registered in 1898 at the Gloucester Office in the St John the Baptist Office. There is a birth for female Price registered at the same office in 1893, in both cases there is no former surname given for the mother which fits with what you suggest about her being unmarried. Note that there is also a female Price registered in Gloucester in 1894, but the Office for that one is Kingsholm, and I am following your suggestion that Mabel and Thomas were both born in the workhouse, hence the office would be the same. According to freeBMD, the 1893 birth was registered in Q4 (ie the December quarter), which is a good fit for the year estimated from the census information.

If this was my own family that is the birth certificate I would go for.

Jane

[susan50]

thanks everyone for your help i have ordered the birth certificate for the female price dec 1893 i will keep you posted.
regards sue

[susan50]

Hi, gloucester archives e mailed me today to say the entry for st john the baptist is not my mabel price they suggest i contact the g. r. o. but without  a birth entry is it possible for them to do a search.
Thanks Sue