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Bowles of Deal
« on: Thursday 20 December 12 20:04 GMT (UK) »
Bowles of Deal

I have a confirmed marriage in Deal of Richard Dawes and Hannah Bowles 1755.  I have been unable to confirm either of their births. The marriage registration did give some helpful names  1) Herbert Randolph the rector (who must have been invited back from Woodchurch parish as he left Deal parish 25 years before)....and 2) witnesses that I am still tracing. Gill(y) and another Dawes.(although the inked name reads at first glance Baines).
The wed couple signed their own names so were clearly literate.

Question 1) Does anyone know about this famous rector who is buried at Canterbury Cathedral.
              2) There seem to be many Bowles families in and around Deal. Can anyone confirm the Bowles of Sandown Castle who was Porter from 1751 for 43 years so that I can eliminate him?  I have no first name.
              3) Is there a Bowles expert out there for Deal?  I have read about the early Bowles (1600-1750 approx)and their enterprises/trade ships and London/Deal tobacco , slave trade connections. There is never a mention of a Hannah Bowles anywhere. I dont think she is from them. Again need to eliminate every Bowles possible. Thank you anyone with any comment at all. Ankaret

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Re: Bowles of Deal
« Reply #1 on: Monday 24 December 12 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ankaret

My research is not yet complete but I am compiling/transcribing the parish records of Deal, Walmer & Sholden. At the moment there is a gap between 16something and 1780 in the St Leonard's records which I will attack after Christmas.

I have all the Walmer records and it seems there were far more Bowles in Walmer than in Deal. I have 62 baptised between 1560 and 1840 only one of which was Hannah. She was baptised at St Mary's, Walmer 21/11/1731 daughter of John & Hannah BOWLES, the right age for the marriage to Richard Dawes. Hannah, the mother, appears to have died in childbirth, being buried at St Mary's on 30/11/1731.

Hannah was one of two children baptised at Walmer to John & Hannah so there might possibly be some more in another parish. It might be possible that Richard Dawes married again as there is a family baptised at St George's in Deal to Richard & Jane DAWES in the 1780/90 era.

Not a lot of help, I know but I should have more to go on when I get to the St Leonard's records later on.

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AJ

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Re: Bowles of Deal
« Reply #2 on: Monday 24 December 12 18:45 GMT (UK) »
AJ

On the contrary..your comment is most helpful. Thank you so much.
I had managed to find some Walmer records from Find My Past, special collections Canterbury Cathedral..Walmer parish. The small number I obtained didnt help me. They were damaged and jumped around through the years, I wondered if they were complete. So the fact you have found the 1731 entry for Hannah Bowles plus her parents is good going. Very grateful AJ that you should be on location and transcribing such helpful records.
With regard the Deal records. I do have more. Most the Dawes history except Richard Dawes birth which remains unconfirmed.  Good holidays to you. Will remain attentive to any of your future revelations.  Ankaret. 

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Re: Bowles of Deal
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 27 December 12 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Ankaret

A few more snippets regarding the Dawes family should they be of interest. Would have incuded them earlier but I forgot I had them.

Baptised at St Leonard's Church, Deal to Richard & Hanna DAWES

23/5/1756  Sara                 17/8/1763  John           
28/6/1758  Richard               1/8/1765  Hanna
4/11/1761  William Bowles    7/10/1770  Thomas

The first Dawes baptised in Deal was Fasham Dawes, s/o Bethel & Martha Dawes on 25/7/1728

I have no Dawes marriages recorded pre 1764 but will check.

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AJ
 


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Re: Bowles of Deal
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 27 December 12 20:27 GMT (UK) »
Hi AJ
Thank you for the "snippets". It confirms Richard Dawes and Hannah Bowles Dawes line.
The really fascinating thing is that the earlier mentioned Bethel Dawes is Deals mayor. He died without a direct heir in 1777. One of the buildings he owned in Deal was rented to a Cordwainer Mackney, who apprecticed Richard Dawes son of Richard and Hannah above.
This "Dawes link" appears at the moment to be total coincidence. Not a provable family connection.
 
So in review.. we seem to have Hannah Bowles parents and birth. Thank you. Researching more into that. Any idea who the sibling to Hannah was that you mentioned? Was it a John Bowles?
No idea where and when Richard Dawes her spouse originated from. May raise a new topic about him as I am slowly eliminating various local Dawes possibilities from Dover, Canterbury etc.
Ankaret.
 

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Re: Bowles of Deal
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 December 12 15:13 GMT (UK) »
Ankaret

Glad the snippets wre of some use. Bethel Dawes had one child Fasham baptised to him and his wife Hanna.
Have no connection at present with Bethel and Richard and no baptism date for Richard either so presumably baptised in another parish.

The sibling to Hanna Dawes was Ann, baptised 9/11/1729 in Walmer to John & Hanna.

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AJ