ciderdrinker,
thanks for your reply.
your right.
I should have sated that they are both long deceased, the lady I am told about late 1970's - early '80s, the gentleman it is thought late 1950's but recollections differed slightly before descending into a humourous argument.
The area has been redeveloped which doesnt help either, as some early photos of the area would be useful.
bw, Rallenza