Dating please ; family photo with a car included in

[walker1234]

Hi can anyone possible date this better for me ? plus any information about the car would be great, as i know nothing.

Its a picture of my grt grt grandpa and his family around his car. i know its roughly 1910 -1920 . ill name and date them left to right ; Rosa 1867-1922. Arnold and Phyllis twins b.1906, John william 1862-1927, Alfred b.1903, Norman b.1892, Gladys b.1895, Percy b.1889.

the picture is a copy of a copy but i have another picture of them which i will post as well , which i think is an original , around the  same time (its about 11.5cmx7cm in size the second photo)

thanks if you can 

[walker1234]

(second photo )

[chinakay]

First photo about 1912 or so, second I think into the 1920s.

Cheers,
China

[vintman]

Hi, I am a bit late on this one but am relatively sure the circular scuttle, windscreen and sharply sloping bonnet is typical of a cca 1907 Humber Beeston 16'20 Roy-de-Belges Tourer. Humber made cars in Coventry and in Beeston, but those made in Beeston were considered higher quality.The 16'20 was made in Beeston 1906 to 1908, when in 1908 they closed the Beeston factory. Car therefore has to be latest 1908. Thomas Humber started in bicycles making his first penny farthing in 1870, making first British motorcycle in 1892, followed soon after by a car. Thomas died 1910 aged 69. Humber Company closed in 1967 under roots.