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John Henry (Henna) Bell
« on: Saturday 15 December 12 21:22 GMT (UK) »
John Henry Bell was born about 1900 in Seaton Delavel, Northumberland.
He was an illegitimate son of Sarah (Sallie) Bell.
I understand that he was always known as Henna.

In the 1911 census he is living at 99 Foreman's Row, Seaton Delavel, Northumberland with his grandmother, Margaret Bell who was a widow, aged 75 years.

I have been told that John Henry (Henna) Bell died in a mining accident, and wondered how I could find out when, where and how he died.
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

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The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.

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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 15 December 12 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Durham mining museum site has the  records for deaths ,what year do you suspect he died
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 15 December 12 22:27 GMT (UK) »
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James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 16 December 12 12:19 GMT (UK) »
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Oh dear - I wonder why this post was deleted  ???  ???  ???

Must have some information on it that I'm not supposed to know  :(
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.


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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 16 December 12 12:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I deleted my previous message as it didn't add anything and might have been misleading. (Didn't realised John Henry Bell was such a common name)

However by way of something positive here is a link to the Durham Mining Museum website that Radcliff mentioned

http://www.dmm.org.uk/
James Stott c1775-1850. James was born in Yorkshire but where? He was a stonemason and married Elizabeth Archer (nee Nicholson) in 1794 at Ripon. They lived thereafter in Masham. If anyone has any suggestions or leads as to his birthplace I would be interested to know. I have searched for it for years without success. Thank you.

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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 16 December 12 19:47 GMT (UK) »

 hl,

 Seeing what little info you have and the spread of the Bell surname. I think it will be difficult to find answers for your questions.....

 So John Henry Bell was 10 yr old and living at 99 Foreman's Row on the 1911 census. ( His mother and family were also at 99 Foreman's Row on the 1901 census)

 The shaft of Seaton Delaval Colliery was about 200 yards along a handy footpath from the east of Foreman's Row.

John Henry or Henna ( Many miners called Henry got nicknamed " Henna" or "Hennie") could have started down Seaton Delaval pit a few years after the taking of the 1911. And he could have been a pit fatality anytime from then up to anytime around, say, his 60th birthday ( circa 1960).

Or he could have moved away from the Seaton Delaval area anytime after 1911, and started down a pit a long way off or just nearby !

(The DMM website shows that more than 90 pits were within a 5 mile radius of Seaton Delaval pit)


 The DMM site shows 3 Bell fatalities in SD pit but none of them are compatable with his birthyear/age at death figures.

Additionally the registration of his death should be recorded on the FreeBMD site, but it could be registered as simply John Bell, rather than his full John Henry Bell !

Nor can I see a definitive registration of a marriage for him. ?

Do you have any further info on him ?

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006756FS.htm

This link shows map including Foremans Row in the proximity of the SD pit yard.( Foremans Row was supposedly the longest single pit row in Northumberland )

 Michael
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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 16 December 12 23:00 GMT (UK) »

 hl,

 Seeing what little info you have and the spread of the Bell surname. I think it will be difficult to find answers for your questions.....

 So John Henry Bell was 10 yr old and living at 99 Foreman's Row on the 1911 census. ( His mother and family were also at 99 Foreman's Row on the 1901 census)

 The shaft of Seaton Delaval Colliery was about 200 yards along a handy footpath from the east of Foreman's Row.

John Henry or Henna ( Many miners called Henry got nicknamed " Henna" or "Hennie") could have started down Seaton Delaval pit a few years after the taking of the 1911. And he could have been a pit fatality anytime from then up to anytime around, say, his 60th birthday ( circa 1960).

Or he could have moved away from the Seaton Delaval area anytime after 1911, and started down a pit a long way off or just nearby !

(The DMM website shows that more than 90 pits were within a 5 mile radius of Seaton Delaval pit)


 The DMM site shows 3 Bell fatalities in SD pit but none of them are compatable with his birthyear/age at death figures.

Additionally the registration of his death should be recorded on the FreeBMD site, but it could be registered as simply John Bell, rather than his full John Henry Bell !

Nor can I see a definitive registration of a marriage for him. ?

Do you have any further info on him ?

http://communities.northumberland.gov.uk/006756FS.htm

This link shows map including Foremans Row in the proximity of the SD pit yard.( Foremans Row was supposedly the longest single pit row in Northumberland )

 Michael

Thank you, Michael,

Carol.
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.

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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 22:52 GMT (UK) »
Henna was my husband's uncle. GEORGE Harold R Bell was Henna's brother. Henna died in an accident at the Seaton elaval mine 1934/35 and is buried at the Seghill church. his brother Harold helped to carry him out of the mine.

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Re: John Henry (Henna) Bell
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 23:49 GMT (UK) »
Henna was my husband's uncle. GEORGE Harold R Bell was Henna's brother. Henna died in an accident at the Seaton elaval mine 1934/35 and is buried at the Seghill church. his brother Harold helped to carry him out of the mine.

Hi Carole,
Welcome to RootsChat.
I'm sure you'll find the people on here very helpful, and between us all, we'll find the answers.
Carol.
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.